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Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Prab am Juli 29, 2006, 10:04:33 Vormittag
I searched on Google for the new cover artwork and found one pic for it on www.vampster.com

But neiter the official site nor the site of Jan Meininghaus (cover artist of the previous albums) does show this picture.

But here it is - what do you guys think?

(http://www.vampster.com/images/gallery2/falconer_northwind.jpg)
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Radagast am Juli 29, 2006, 11:02:58 Vormittag
Its a little unusual (but then, so was GvG) isn't it? I'll need to wait to see a full-sized, non-blurry version.
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: AngelOfMusic am Juli 29, 2006, 04:58:09 Nachmittag
Ditto to what Radagast said, + I kind of like it.
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Beitrag von: <Horus-Nikopol> am Juli 29, 2006, 08:54:19 Nachmittag
Ahm... is this for real or is it just fanart? Seems weird to me that the official cover artwork would show up first on such a random website. Stefan?
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: J-Roc am Juli 30, 2006, 04:13:18 Vormittag
Its certainly not what I expected, but i kinda like it.
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Vonn am Juli 30, 2006, 08:32:25 Nachmittag
I like the idea of the old "mascot" from the first album, but I think some things are out of order in it. Like the logo should be farther in the top-left corner, maybe even over the boarder. Not much, just soem minor changes. And I agree that it seems odd that cover art would show up at some random website before it's released from a more realiable source. I think an answer is in order Stefan :D


-Vonn
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: <Horus-Nikopol> am Juli 30, 2006, 09:37:01 Nachmittag
I doubt whether this is actually the real cover.

It does look nice in a way, but not nearly as good as the earlier ones. I would expect something better and more epic from an album that celebrates the return of Falconer to their erstwhile musical glory.

It looks kind of like several pieces thrown together. It does not quite work as a cohesive painting. There's the band logo, the falconer from the first album (great idea, by the way) and the falcon (now flying free, great idea also), then there's a sword, a... helmet? Dunno, can't quite make that one out. Then there's a house... with bright colors that do not work with the rest of the picture. The decorative structures in the corners look... okay but not great. The writing of "Northwind" looks merely mediocre. But then, I too would have to see it in full size to pass a final judgement.

If this really is the album cover, alright, its not bad, but compared to the earlier cover paintings, it lacks the epic strength, the cohesiveness (is that a word?) of its predecessors. I was looking forward to something more powerful and... for the third time and lack of a better word - cohesive.

Yeah... Stefan?  :lol:
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: The Black Knight am Juli 31, 2006, 09:38:38 Vormittag
The cover is the official one.
You find it in a bit better quality here: http://www.bravewords.com/news/48176

To me, the Northwind cover is not the best one of Falconer's five album covers, but it beats the GvG cover by miles.
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Stefan W am Juli 31, 2006, 04:38:11 Nachmittag
I think it looks good, not the best one we've had.
It fits the title song quite good although it might look a bit lame to some.
Then you should have seen the first version, ha ha.

Anyway, it's just a cover.

Cheerio!!!
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: AngelOfMusic am Juli 31, 2006, 05:36:02 Nachmittag
This cover is the bloodiest Falconer has had, that's for sure.  :shock:
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: <Horus-Nikopol> am Juli 31, 2006, 06:15:09 Nachmittag
Well the basic idea is not bad, it's actually damn good. The Falconer from the first album is back (as is Mathias) and the falcon is now flying free just as the old powerful music is unleashed again.

That's awesome. But the elements just do not work that well together. For instance: what is that axe doing there? Is it leaning on his leg?

The top right corner looks great And the rest should have been more like it. Why is so much space consumed by this house that is much too bright and does not tell me anything?

Okay so that's the cover. A little disappointing compared to the earlier masterpieces, but okay. It's the music that counts and I'm sure it's among the best you guys have done.

Just let me do the cover painting next time, okay?  :wink:
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Stefan W am Juli 31, 2006, 06:24:03 Nachmittag
As I said before when you read the lyric you understand more of the cover.
It's about a Viking who leaves his bloody past behind him and returns home.

Hope that cleared some things.

I actually didn't have any good idea on how to make a cover of the title track so I let the painter decide.
The idea I had was a viking standing in the front of a viking ship in a thunder storm, and that´s just patheticly cliché.
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Mindtraveller am Juli 31, 2006, 09:20:22 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "Stefan W"
The idea I had was a viking standing in the front of a viking ship in a thunder storm, and that´s just patheticly cliché.


That would have been awesome! :mrgreen: :P

Oh well, I just wish we could see a bigger version. Now that you mention the idea behind the art, it looks much much better. ;)
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Beitrag von: Radagast am Juli 31, 2006, 11:46:07 Nachmittag
Maybe this is the place where the guy from the first album cover was riding to on his Metal pony? :D
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Beitrag von: Maximus am August 01, 2006, 04:11:13 Vormittag
I'm liking it.

The border thing is cool, and the art is unique for an album cover, but also works well, which is a good thing.

However in case you reconsider I have created a more cliche Viking style cover if you want to use it to get the message across a bit clearer.

(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/9309/northwindap3.jpg)
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: AngelOfMusic am August 01, 2006, 05:18:23 Vormittag
Zitat von: "Maximus"
I'm liking it.
(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/9309/northwindap3.jpg)



 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Brilliant!
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Radagast am August 01, 2006, 11:51:25 Vormittag
Zitat von: "Maximus"
I'm liking it.

The border thing is cool, and the art is unique for an album cover, but also works well, which is a good thing.

However in case you reconsider I have created a more cliche Viking style cover if you want to use it to get the message across a bit clearer.

(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/9309/northwindap3.jpg)

Bwahahahahaha! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: The Blacksmith am August 01, 2006, 05:59:55 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "Maximus"
I'm liking it.

The border thing is cool, and the art is unique for an album cover, but also works well, which is a good thing.

However in case you reconsider I have created a more cliche Viking style cover if you want to use it to get the message across a bit clearer.

(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/9309/northwindap3.jpg)


HAHAHA :lol:  :lol:
I should have let you do it instead! That's awesome!  :wink:
The real (but not so funny) cover could be found in the download-section guys 'n girls..
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Odin am August 01, 2006, 07:36:34 Nachmittag
...and it was in a press release by Metalblade (a much larger version also), sorry I did not post it here before, but I have been very busy for a while already... <sigh>

But I will surely get back to you with first impressions of the songs soon. Stay tuned! (not yet got the material, no)
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: J-Roc am August 02, 2006, 07:58:55 Vormittag
Now that we can see the full-sized version on the official site, we can get a better idea of whats going on in the artwork, and i have to say, now that i have a good view, it looks alot better.
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Radagast am August 02, 2006, 01:59:37 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "J-Roc"
Now that we can see the full-sized version on the official site, we can get a better idea of whats going on in the artwork, and i have to say, now that i have a good view, it looks alot better.

It does look much better. I still the think the warrior's stance looks a little...unnatural, but it mostly looks very cool and a nice tie-in to the first two albums.
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: <Horus-Nikopol> am August 02, 2006, 04:14:00 Nachmittag
A good friend of mine (who also converted the Emotional Skies video so everyone could watch it) has spontaneously photoshopped his own idea of what the cover for "Northwind" should have looked like. We had been discussing the actual cover a bit on the forum of our Club Mats website and this is what he came up with:

http://www.host-your-board.de/cgi-bin/yabbserver/foren/F_1116/YaBB.cgi?board=Everything;action=display;num=1150999628;start=180#181

What do you think?
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Radagast am August 02, 2006, 06:22:36 Nachmittag
Those are cool! I really like the first one (the second is just a little tooo cliched). Although the officiall cover seems to have more of a Falconer vibe about it, if you know what I mean.
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Mindtraveller am August 02, 2006, 09:17:10 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "<Horus-Nikopol>"
A good friend of mine [...] has spontaneously photoshopped his own idea of what the cover for "Northwind" should have looked like. [...] What do you think?


The first idea looks better indeed. It would have been interesting to see Meninghaus paint a version of such concept. It kinda fits the idea Stefan talked about, if perhaps in a subtler way.
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: <Horus-Nikopol> am August 02, 2006, 10:45:49 Nachmittag
Yeah, I agree. I don't like the second version, either.
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Prab am August 11, 2006, 07:48:04 Vormittag
On the official website I found this (http://www.falconermusic.com/covernorthwind.jpg) larger und clearer version of the Northwind cover design. Looks much better than the tiny picture. I kinda like it!
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Radagast am August 11, 2006, 09:31:53 Vormittag
Now that looks a lot better, although I still think the way the warrior is standing looks a little...stilted? :?
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: AngelOfMusic am August 11, 2006, 07:05:21 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "Radagast"
Now that looks a lot better, although I still think the way the warrior is standing looks a little...stilted? :?


Maybe he's stiff and sore after a long battle (both physical and emotional) so his confirmation isn't as "together" as it could be?   Just a thought.  I know I sometimes walk like that after mucking stalls.
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Nightmares Desire am August 13, 2006, 05:55:59 Vormittag
Zitat von: "AngelOfMusic"
Zitat von: "Radagast"
Now that looks a lot better, although I still think the way the warrior is standing looks a little...stilted? :?


Maybe he's stiff and sore after a long battle (both physical and emotional) so his confirmation isn't as "together" as it could be?   Just a thought.  I know I sometimes walk like that after mucking stalls.


No kidding.  :shock:

After the first 20 stalls, im usually about to die........
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: J-Roc am August 16, 2006, 06:02:08 Vormittag
I believe that the setting of the first album, and of Northwind are the same. Not just because of the falconer on the cover, but if you look at the first album, near the bottom-right hand corner, just above the cape, you will see a small viking village. Just think about it, the falconer has returned home after 5 years of plundering northern europe to put this violent past behind him.  Whether intentionally, or by some coincodince, there is at least an artistic conection between the two albums.
Titel: NORTHWIND Cover Design
Beitrag von: Ancient Minstrel am August 22, 2006, 12:40:57 Nachmittag
I don't think it is the same person. Firstly I think that they look a little different and secondly and most importantly: there were no falconers in Scandinavia during the period of the vikings, and especially not on horse (horses were rare in at least Sweden before the middle ages) and with a coat of arms on his tunic.