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Zombies => Metal & Talk (english) => Thema gestartet von: shadowman am November 11, 2004, 01:34:16 Nachmittag
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Hohohohoho...
This is gonna be fun... 8)
Just tell the bleeding community what you know about Belgium...
After a few reactions I will ask my Belgium friend Shadowmailer (a far relative :wink: )
to join in and react to your postings...
First one to mention the Atomium can expect something like :
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Hm, Belgium, let's see. Not too much what comes to my mind...
- Fries
- Brussels lace
- Chocolates
- Brussels - as the capital of the European Union
- Marc Dutroux and sexual abuse and murder of children
- Mäneken Piss (sorry, I lack a translation and am too lazy to look it up :(
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Waffles- I am not sure if they originated here or if they have anything to do with Belgium but I love Belgian waffles, ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
Belgian Pralines, (some of the finest chocolate I have ever tatsed) :wink: wow!!!!!! I found this quote "The reputation of our gourmet food makes the French jealous and it is almost impossible to find chocolates as good as ours !" hahahahaha
Flemish art style, Brueghel, Jordaens, Van Dyck, Rubens (is one of my favorites),
Lots of varieties of Beer
Cathedrals and impressive architecture
Castles-The Castle of Veves
Brussels- UN and NATO.
Diamonds!
Very friendly easy going people,
dislike of the Dutch :twisted:
Worlds Fair and the ................... :twisted:
One of the original members of the EC
Presently some very good female tennis players- Kim Clijsters and Justine Henin-Hardenne
Methinks that Belgium should be next on our to visit in Europe list!! :D
(Edit notes) grammar and spelling.
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Oh Belgium...intreresting one..
-Goose appetizers
-beer
-chocolates
-crazy metalheads
-European Union
-KASTEELBEEEEEEEEEEEEEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and last but not least
Shadowman...hehehehehhee
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... I think I'lle be the worste in this topic. Bad chocolate and shadowman comes to my mind first... and the map of world with belgium highlighting from it...
Hmmh. They speek french there do they? And it is hot... atleast hotter than here? (Well, any place is hotter than here... perhaps not antarctis but..) That's about it.
*waiting to get a bit wiser about Belgium*
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Lot's of shadowpeople.......strong beer,11% alcohol.... :shock:
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Crazy people (it seemed like everyone I ever wrote to in the 80s from Belgium was nuts)
Bad drivers (they are always on the road here, between the French highway and the German autobahn they have to cut across my main driving route and they drive me nuts)
One of my favorite artists (Magritte)
the pissing boy statue that I spent 45 minutes trying to find - and had been right around the corner from when I started walking around trying to find him
Fantastic cherry beer
Really cool street art (bags of water with religious statues underneath)
(http://www.evilshell.net/euro/Brussels/images/art3_jpg.jpg)
Happy dog pee signs
(http://www.evilshell.net/euro/Brussels/images/brus34_jpg.jpg)
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(http://home.ripway.com/2004-7/147379/onder_menu.jpg)
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(http://home.ripway.com/2004-7/147379/onder_menu.jpg)
What's that???
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HRMMM... only thing I could think of was WAFFLESSSSSS!!!!! YUMMIE!!!!!
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I'd love to go to Belgium. A friend of mine went this past spring and visited the WWII sites around Brussles and she loved it.
So when I think of Belgium I think of WWII and my friend. :)
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Im still thinking Belgium waffles... mmmmmMMMMMMmmmmmm WAFFLES!!!!! (and spam) lol
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Quite some interesting things to react to so far...
Anyone else before I give you all an inside view of Belgian way of life ?
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I think you could easily wait one or even two more days as this topic is just one day old...
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noted...
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Easy there big fella! We want more myths to be dispelled!!!!
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Myths ? uh uh...
Don't get your hopes up too high there, Oh holy brothren of The Metallic Art...
Seen quite a few amuzing things yet...
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I think you could easily wait one or even two more days as this topic is just one day old...
I think he's just itching to dispel the rumors that Belgians are crazy, the waffles and beer are good and the art is strange :lol:
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Spa, my favourite F1 circuit to add to the things that were already mentioned.
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Spa, my favourite F1 circuit to add to the things that were already mentioned.
And you are right...a veru nice circuit...although F1 get worse and wosre by year
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Hmmmmm.... the problem of joining in so late is: I just now only found one thing to add:
Asterix and the Belgians (?) - where the original pissing boy appears, hehe. :)
But something I'd like to say already: Rubens?! If you mean Peter Paul Rubens you should know he was born in Germany, Siegen to be exact (that is where I lived from 1995 to 2001). And I am not that sure about his heritage - wasn't it Dutch? Dangerous question, if we think of the love between the two of them, Dutch and Belgians. ;)
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Ok in order not to make this reply all too long, I suggest I react to the first three guys who reacted on this topic...
@AoP : you should have an advantage as a nearby neighbour dude. And it shows !
Fries, right on ! It seems we have invented this delicacy, shouldn't ask me, I wasn't around at that time. :wink:
What I do know is that every true Belgian eats fries like three times a week... And there is a 'frittekot' (sorry, no translation)(you get the point right ?) on every corner on every street...
Brussels lace, ok but... the lace of Bruges is even more known and far more expensive as well...
Chocoalates... Mmm, time for the first bold statement, ahem here it goes : the Belgian chocolate is the best in the world. We beat the Swiss BY far ! (sorry Evilshell). Best known brands are Leonidas (just ask Dimitris) and Godiva.
Brussels, capital of the European union. Course, no real comment except this, it made the prices of the houses almost unpayable for the common man. :(
Marc Dutroux, very sad story indeed. But hey, the sicko is an isolated pervert. We had the bad luck he was born and raised in Belgium. It gave a rather bad name to my country for quite some time unfortunately...
Manneke Pis, will come back on the little guy later on...
So I'd say you did a good job man !
Assessment : 9/10
:laugh:
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@ the Metal RN :
Waffles, a Belgian invention indeed, there are two sorts of Waffles, Brussels Waffles and Luikse wafels.
Belgian Pralines, no comment on what you said, couldn't have said it better myself !
:P
Flemish Art, yes indeed and this is something we Belgians aren't proud enough of. I live about 50 kms away from Bruges where you can find the Groeninghe Museum. It holds an amazing collection of the 'Flemish Primitives'. You named quite a few of them man !
(One small remark : I think you are referring to Van Eyck instead of Van Dyck)
To your list I would add Memling, Pourbus,van der Goes, van der Weijden...
Lots of varieties of Beer, let me get back to that later on as well. Quite a story concerning the Belgian beer and I don't want to make this reply all TOO long.
Cathedrals, Castles, yep Belgium has quite an impressive medieval history.
Diamonds ! You got that right, the centre of the world diamond trading industry is located in Antwerp, the second biggest Belgian city. The epicentre of these activities are located in the jewish sector of the city.
Very friendly people, well thanks man ! Hahahahaha... And we won't mention the Dutch just yet now shall we ?
Worlds Fair and one of the first members of the EC, right again ! Being a small country the governments have always seen the need to work closely together with other European countries.
About the tennisplayers ... Of course you are right but believe me this is merely one big coincidence. We never had signifiant tennisplayers in the past and now we have the best two in the world ! Amazing ! But I repeat, nothing to do with special youth training programs or so, just a coincidence !
Conclusion : 10 outta 10 for the Metal RN !
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Nice to play the teacher for once in a while !!
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@Gargantouas :
Ouch, a very bad start man... :oops: Goose appetizers are not Belgian but French.
This is a kind of paté made of goose and duck livers. This may seem awful to some of you who have never tasted it but take my word for it : This is heaven !! Too bad it is so damn expensive !
Beer, come back to that later on as I told above.
Chocolates, already commented above as well
Crazy metalheads ? Muhahahahaha, if you are referring to me euh... well... should I thank you now or not ? (http://www.bieb.be//bieb/smile/new/lookaround.gif)
Oh well, there shouldn't be more metalheads in Belgium as in Greece I think.
KASTEELBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER !! Right on dude ! Let me reveal this already about Belgian beer, Kasteelbier is brewed in a small town about 15 kms away from my hometown and sit tight, I am now gonna make my second bold statement :
Kasteelbier (beer is spelled bier in Dutch) is the best beer in the world !!!!
And believe me, I have had some different beers in my live !!
Check it out here :
http://www.kasteelbier.be/swf.htm
And last but not least you think about Shadowman when you think about Belgium ?
Ok, this flattering gives you another half point extra !!
A score of 8,5 for the Greek dude !
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(http://home.ripway.com/2004-7/147379/onder_menu.jpg)
What's that???
This is the "mascot" for Graspop Metal Meeting in Dessel, Belgium. Silly little guy (??) but a kick ass festival or so I've heard.
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But something I'd like to say already: Rubens?! If you mean Peter Paul Rubens you should know he was born in Germany, Siegen to be exact (that is where I lived from 1995 to 2001). And I am not that sure about his heritage - wasn't it Dutch? Dangerous question, if we think of the love between the two of them, Dutch and Belgians. ;)
We are both correct..... (from an art history site i had found to check my stats :oops: ).......His father, a Protestant lawyer, left Antwerp for Westphalia to escape persecution. There Peter Paul was born and baptized a Calvinist; then his parents separated. Mother and son returned to Antwerp, where he was humanistically schooled, rebaptized a Roman Catholic, and soon became a page at a neighboring court. 8)
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(One small remark : I think you are referring to Van Eyck instead of Van Dyck)
To your list I would add Memling, Pourbus,van der Goes, van der Weijden...
Well I do really love Van Eycks painting " portrait of Giovanni di Arrigo Arnolfini", but I was not sure if he was born in Belgium or not, I beleive that he spent a lot of time being schooled in The Netherlands so I was not sure. that particular painting actually made sparked my interest in learning more about art/art history, along with my fav of all time "The Scream" by Munch. Anthony van Dyck was a pupil of Rubens.
Thanks for the feedback. We hope to visit your country soon!
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Well I do really love Van Eycks painting " portrait of Giovanni di Arrigo Arnolfini", but I was not sure if he was born in Belgium or not, !
Oh yes he was, a 100 % Flemish guy ! Was born in Maaseik and worked for the biggest part of his life in Bruges were he also died around 1440...
Please inform me whenever you hit Belgium !!
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... I think I'lle be the worste in this topic. Bad chocolate and shadowman comes to my mind first... and the map of world with belgium highlighting from it...
Hmmh. They speek french there do they? And it is hot... atleast hotter than here? (Well, any place is hotter than here... perhaps not antarctis but..) That's about it.
*waiting to get a bit wiser about Belgium*
A few more replies, let us start off with our Finnish girl...
Bad chocolate ? BAD CHOCOLATE ?? :x I do hope this is meant in the sarcastic way here ??!! oh well, it could have been worse : you could have put : chocolate and bad shadowman ... :wink:
And euh... French ? Well, you are partiallly right... There are about 10 millions Belgians and the northern part of the country called Flandres speak Flemish (let us say a dirty form of Dutch...), about 6 million people, and the southern part called Wallonië, about 4 million speak French. Needless to say I come from the northern Flemish speaking part :lol:
And HOT ?? You must be kidding, for 80 % of the year is is either freezing, cloudy or rainy... Not the ideal climate to spend your vacation... :roll:
But still, guess Belgium is quite hot in comparison to that refridgerator you call Finnland !
:wink:
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Lot's of shadowpeople.......strong beer,11% alcohol.... :shock:
Shadowpeople ? euh... yeah I guess... :wink:
And strong beer ? Yes indeed ! You must have been talking to Dimitris because the best beer in the world, Kasteelbier is excactly... 11 degrees !
What a coincidence right ? :wink:
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Crazy people (it seemed like everyone I ever wrote to in the 80s from Belgium was nuts)
Bad drivers (they are always on the road here, between the French highway and the German autobahn they have to cut across my main driving route and they drive me nuts)
One of my favorite artists (Magritte)
the pissing boy statue that I spent 45 minutes trying to find - and had been right around the corner from when I started walking around trying to find him
Fantastic cherry beer
Really cool street art (bags of water with religious statues underneath)
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crazy people ? I think we are pretty average concerning 'crazyness'... Couldn't it have been you who were a bit of in the 80's ?? :lol2:
Bad drivers ? I thought those were the French... I'd rather say the Belgians should be good drivers considering the fact that we have the most dense network of roads and highways in the world ! Cars, cars and more cars on every god forsaken road in this country !
About the pissing boy, I really wonder why every foreigner comes to look for the little guy. Ok, he is old but so are about 153.896 far more interesting things in Belgium :roll:
Besides, everyone who have found the statue was disappointed by its size and location. He is located on a lost alley somewhere in Brussels and can't be more than 1 meter in height.
So forget about this guy, no big deal... Wanna see a guy taking a leak go to a rock concert !
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Cherry beer, right on ! We brew beer with every kind of fruit you can imagine but when it comes to fruit beer you can't beat cherry and peaches... Beware, not every cherry beer is a good as the other. Before making a purchase, don't hesitate to call on Shadowman expertise... 8)
Street art ? We have become quite famous throughout the last few years for that... Many fascinating new street festivals have seen the light in the last decade. Mind you, many of the artists you may see may come from outside the country...
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(http://home.ripway.com/2004-7/147379/onder_menu.jpg)
What's that???
This is the "mascot" for Graspop Metal Meeting in Dessel, Belgium. Silly little guy (??) but a kick ass festival or so I've heard.
Ooops, now I'm embarassed. I should have known that !!! :oops:
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[crazy people ? I think we are pretty average concerning 'crazyness'... Couldn't it have been you who were a bit of in the 80's ?? :lol2:
Bad drivers ? I thought those were the French... I'd rather say the Belgians should be good drivers considering the fact that we have the most dense network of roads and highways in the world ! Cars, cars and more cars on every god forsaken road in this country !
About the pissing boy, I really wonder why every foreigner comes to look for the little guy. Ok, he is old but so are about 153.896 far more interesting things in Belgium :roll:
Besides, everyone who have found the statue was disappointed by its size and location. He is located on a lost alley somewhere in Brussels and can't be more than 1 meter in height.
So forget about this guy, no big deal... Wanna see a guy taking a leak go to a rock concert !
(http://www.bieb.be//bieb/smile/conf31.gif)
Cherry beer, right on ! We brew beer with every kind of fruit you can imagine but when it comes to fruit beer you can't beat cherry and peaches... Beware, not every cherry beer is a good as the other. Before making a purchase, don't hesitate to call on Shadowman expertise... 8)
I will most definitely consult you the next time I want to buy cherry beer (and I'm thinking about it in advance!) :cheers:
The statue was rather disappointing - but I also expected it to be! I just became so determined to find it.....I'm stubborn like that sometimes. For those who don't know how disappointing it is, here's a photo I took of it:
(http://www.evilshell.net/euro/Brussels/images/piss2_jpg.jpg)
As for adults pissing, just go to Amsterdam, they have those open toilets on the streets so you can see guys pissing 24/7.
Hm, maybe these were French who moved to Belgium! The French are definitely the worst drivers around here - them and the Swiss when they're on the German Autobahn ("oh yay, no speed limit, outta my way assholes"....gah....I really hate those drivers. They're like kids in a candy store).
The ex's band wrote a song called "What a Chaos" about the weird Belgians who used to write to us.....while I was extremely strange back then (and still am, and proud of it!), they were definitely more odd : :lol2:
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A few more replies, let us start off with our Finnish girl...
Bad chocolate ? BAD CHOCOLATE ?? :x I do hope this is meant in the sarcastic way here ??!! oh well, it could have been worse : you could have put : chocolate and bad shadowman ... :wink:
No it isn't in any way sarcastic :oops: Just my opinion because I've tasted the finnish chocolate, which beats them all :P
Atleast my friend, who went to Belgium, said it was hot .. though it was summertime... and we had rain.
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Ok, he is old but so are about 153.896 far more interesting things in Belgium
OK! Can you list them? :lol2:
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Sure !! Got a minute ?
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had a belgium style waffle with eggs and bacon the other day.. mmmMMMmmmm waffles!
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if i think Belgium i think:
Beer!
my neighbours
manneke pies
Vogeltjesmarkt in Antwerpen (birdmarket)
The zoo in antwerpen
Vlaamse Frieten met mayonaise (Friet with mayo!)
respect
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Now how come everyone thinks of beer while thinking of Belgium ?
And they should by all means !
No nation worldwide beats the quality of Belgian Beer !!!
And Mas, could you clarify what you mean by 'respect' ?
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Belgium beer is de best beer you can get!
And about "Respect" i mean this:
Belgium people are talking with respect to other people. One of the things i realy like is the U word and not the Je or Jou word.
Its also true that if you go to a pub or shop that the people who work there are very very kind and nice and respectfull to other people.
I think we can learn of the belgium people.
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And believe it or not : I do NOT pay this woman to say this stuff !!
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No nation worldwide beats the quality of Belgian Beer !!!
I still prefer Guinness or Murphy's.
:)
Greetz,
Tex
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Give me one afternoon to make you change your mind !!
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I prefer:
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(http://www.caferaterink.nl/pictures/hertogjan.jpg)
Thats my favorite beer here.! :beer:
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I prefer:
(http://home.ripway.com/2004-7/147379/vanhoo.jpg)
This bottle looks like a expenseve parfum
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Aaaarrgghhh.... Dutch Beer !!
I'm BLIND !!!
No, no just kidding but to be honest euh... no Dutch beer for this guy...
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After all this strange talk about Belgian and other "beer" I think we have to get something straight here.
There are some rumours about Belgian "beer" indeed. But I don't know how many of them really produce beer as it is defined by the purity requirement...? ;)
Anyway, nothing will beer, errrr, beet real and true pure Krombacher. I'd accept some others as well like Eichener or Königs Pilsener, if I have to. Krombach and Eichen, both small villages belonging to the same city, which itself belongs to the bigger city of Siegen, where I lived for some years as you might have read already. Driving by the breweries is always an experience for your nose. :)
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In my case, if I can't get Guinness, it is Murphy's, Kilkenny, Fiege, Veltins, Warsteiner, Früh. (Exactly in this order.) If they don't even have Früh, I'll get a Coke.
:)
Greetz,
Tex
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BY the way has anyone tasted Greek Beer? :P
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Yes i have ones, that was in Athene and in Neamakri, but i dont know the Beer name anymore, if i can remember it was not bad beer :cheers: