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Zombies => Metal & Talk (english) => Thema gestartet von: shadowman am Januar 04, 2005, 04:07:26 Nachmittag
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A friend send this link to me :
Find out what drugs can do to your body... :shock:
Now I do not want to be holier than the pope here but I only overdose on loud music and admiring women !
At least that is what my wife says... Hehehehehe...
Here's the link :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/onelife/fun/health/excess/drop.swf
Spooky !!
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I dont use anything of drugs, they do not interest me, I dont need them for the fun or anything else. I know a person who is schizofreen , and sometimes he uses weed and then he is going out of his mind, and wil shout that he is gonna murder everyone in the street. :shock: So my life is not boring, and fun enought without drugs :D
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cool site.. isnt really informative unless your in the third grade but hey its a start.....
and my view of drugs.. there for usless people who cant get a date, dont have a life, and could give two shits less about this world. because by them doing it promotes it to children.....
nope, dont do drugs. dont drink either.. but with alcohal that is something different. if ya drink and can handle it you are a better person then me... because I couldnt handle it and is why i am a recovering alcohalic..........
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i smoke sometimes weed, not that much, i smoke cigarets too and i think they are more bad than the purple hazle i sometimes smoke.
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I'm not a fan of the drugs. And I drink! Of course, I didn't drink until I was of legal age (I must be one of the very few people to ever do so) so now I'm pretty much clueless. I'm slowly learning my limit, and hopefully I haven't done too much damage to my poor think-box.
Though it's true that alcohol makes you pee alot. Once you break the seal, it's all over!
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I find it really intersting that most people do not see alcohol as a drug, is it because it is "legal"? It is as dangerous or even more so because it is readily available. It is the cause of more deaths than all those others combined!!!!! By far!!!
As I have gotten older my view of substances has changed, I have been an athlete all my life and would never have put anything into this body that would damage my chances at sports. I never had a drink till I got married (ok fire away on that one :D ). But what really needs to be the key, I think, is responsibility, and the only caveat to that is that a lot of these substances have a high chance to alter your judgement.
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yeah alcohol is a drugs, when you cant stop with someting and you cant live without it its a drugs.
cigarets, alcohol, weed, even aspirine can be a drugs for people. all this things we can buy in a shop, so simpel is it.
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Yes, alcohol, cigarettes, even coffee and caffinated cola drinks (I HATE to see parents giving Coca-Cola to 2 year olds, especially when they then scream about their hyperactive child) are all drugs.
I flip-flop on this one. Being as I grew up in the 70s and experimentation was all around I don't see anything wrong with the responsible recreational use of drugs. Although personally, of all recreational drugs, I only use alcohol and caffine on a very limited basis. In a perfect world I think all use should be legal. Crime surrounding the trade would greatly be reduced.
HOWEVER --
-They aren't legal and I don't believe in breaking the law. And If you do get caught and convicted the implications for the rest of your life are horrific, ie. you can't get certain jobs with a drug conviction on your record, your home can be seized if the substance is found in it, etc.
-As to responsible use....Is there resposible use of something that can case irresponsible behavior? If you look at alcohol to gage and extrapolate behavior then I am not sure it can be achieved.
-Besides, people pop over-the-counter drugs with no thought or care to the side effects on the body so why would they even consider the side effects of these fun chemicals that they put into their body. (which was illustrated in Shadow's link )
-Or considering their ability to only use them recreationally without chance of physical or psychological addiction.
I sometimes think it may be better to save people from themselves.
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Cigarets are the kind of drug for me, I know its bad, but I'm addicted to cigarettes.. :oops:
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Yes, alcohol, cigarettes, even coffee and caffinated cola drinks (I HATE to see parents giving Coca-Cola to 2 year olds, especially when they then scream about their hyperactive child) are all drugs.
I flip-flop on this one. Being as I grew up in the 70s and experimentation was all around I don't see anything wrong with the responsible recreational use of drugs. Although personally, of all recreational drugs, I only use alcohol and caffine on a very limited basis. In a perfect world I think all use should be legal. Crime surrounding the trade would greatly be reduced.
HOWEVER --
-They aren't legal and I don't believe in breaking the law. And If you do get caught and convicted the implications for the rest of your life are horrific, ie. you can't get certain jobs with a drug conviction on your record, your home can be seized if the substance is found in it, etc.
-As to responsible use....Is there resposible use of something that can case irresponsible behavior? If you look at alcohol to gage and extrapolate behavior then I am not sure it can be achieved.
-Besides, people pop over-the-counter drugs with no thought or care to the side effects on the body so why would they even consider the side effects of these fun chemicals that they put into their body. (which was illustrated in Shadow's link )
-Or considering their ability to only use them recreationally without chance of physical or psychological addiction.
I sometimes think it may be better to save people from themselves.
A really accurate description there Metal Maiden, I am with you on this one...
I believe the American laws about drugabuse are very strict if I am not mistaken ?
Just the other day I heard that Belgium, although being a very small country is a megaproducer of the party drug XTC... :cry:
As I said before, I have never done drugs in any way and I hope I can keep my daughters on the right side of the track as well...
Guess a lot depends on the so called 'wrong' friends right ?
:roll:
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Guess a lot depends on the so called 'wrong' friends right ?
:roll:
From the personal experience: Perhaps a bit. I think what is way more important is to teach your kids self-consciousness. If your kids have the inner strength to say "No", things are easier if there are those wrong friends around.
Kids should know that no kind of drugs can provide a shelter or protection against problems. Kids should know that people who do drugs are hardly friends to rely on in sticky situations.
Kids should know there's nothing cool about drugs - except refusing to take them.
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Kids should know there's nothing cool about drugs - except refusing to take them.
Very well said!
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Guess a lot depends on the so called 'wrong' friends right ?
:roll:
From the personal experience: Perhaps a bit. I think what is way more important is to teach your kids self-consciousness. If your kids have the inner strength to say "No", things are easier if there are those wrong friends around.
Kids should know that no kind of drugs can provide a shelter or protection against problems. Kids should know that people who do drugs are hardly friends to rely on in sticky situations.
Kids should know there's nothing cool about drugs - except refusing to take them.
Letting them know your expectations for them and not being afraid to set limits is also an important factor.
And remember that pre-teens and teenagers need you around, and your guidance, just as much, if not more, than younger kids.
Modeling the proper behavior is important too.
Too many parents here, who were growing up themselves in the 70s & 80s were afraid to set limits and no-drug-use expectations for their kids because they had been users themselves during their own teen years and somehow felt they didn't have a right, or where afarid their own use would be brought up and they'd be seen as hypocrites by their kids, or whatever reasons, I don't know why, but -- it has had disasterous results.
And many seem to think that by 15, 16 kids are grow and don't need looking after any more. Bad idea!
I managed to raise 2 drug-free kids to adulthood.
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Guess a lot depends on the so called 'wrong' friends right ?
:roll:
From the personal experience: Perhaps a bit. I think what is way more important is to teach your kids self-consciousness. If your kids have the inner strength to say "No", things are easier if there are those wrong friends around.
Kids should know that no kind of drugs can provide a shelter or protection against problems. Kids should know that people who do drugs are hardly friends to rely on in sticky situations.
Kids should know there's nothing cool about drugs - except refusing to take them.
Letting them know your expectations for them and not being afraid to set limits is also an important factor.
And remember that pre-teens and teenagers need you around, and your guidance, just as much, if not more, than younger kids.
Modeling the proper behavior is important too.
Too many parents here, who were growing up themselves in the 70s & 80s were afraid to set limits and no-drug-use expectations for their kids because they had been users themselves during their own teen years and somehow felt they didn't have a right, or where afarid their own use would be brought up and they'd be seen as hypocrites by their kids, or whatever reasons, I don't know why, but -- it has had disasterous results.
And many seem to think that by 15, 16 kids are grow and don't need looking after any more. Bad idea!
I managed to raise 2 drug-free kids to adulthood.
I agree 100% My parents were an excellent example of "practice what you preach." They set clear boundaries, but didn't keep me on too tight a leash.
I didn't drink hardly at all (wine on occasion with my parents) until I turned 21. Why? Because my parents didn't drink like idiots, nor did they treat alcohol as if it were the most evil substence on Earth. If I wanted to try a sip of what they were drinking, they let me. Honestly, because I COULD have it, and I was given enough trust that I wouldn't be stupid, I didn't drink as a minor.
Niether of my parents smokes. On occasion I'd see my dad with a cigar, but I had no interest in them. I did try smoking once when I was 13, and every now and then during high school I'd bum a drag off of a friend's cigarette, but for the most part I didn't smoke, nor did I care to take it up.
As for illicit drugs, I simply always thought they were stupid. So did my Mom. My dad was a poliece officer, so he did alot of anti-drug work. They were both young people during the 60's, and didn't get into the "Sex and drugs" phenomenon. In fact, my dad thought it was idiotic, and my mom saw no point to it.
I got lucky, with awesome parents. :)
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I didn't drink hardly at all (wine on occasion with my parents) until I turned 21. Why? Because my parents didn't drink like idiots, nor did they treat alcohol as if it were the most evil substence on Earth. If I wanted to try a sip of what they were drinking, they let me. Honestly, because I COULD have it, and I was given enough trust that I wouldn't be stupid, I didn't drink as a minor.
I got lucky, with awesome parents. :)
That is a prime example of showing how to responsibly enjoy alcohol, that also takes most of the "rebellion" out of it for teenagers. Modeling is a very important teaching tool.
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I didn't drink hardly at all (wine on occasion with my parents) until I turned 21. Why? Because my parents didn't drink like idiots, nor did they treat alcohol as if it were the most evil substence on Earth. If I wanted to try a sip of what they were drinking, they let me. Honestly, because I COULD have it, and I was given enough trust that I wouldn't be stupid, I didn't drink as a minor.
I got lucky, with awesome parents. :)
That is a prime example of showing how to responsibly enjoy alcohol, that also takes most of the "rebellion" out of it for teenagers. Modeling is a very important teaching tool.
The only reason I didn't "rebel" is because I had no reason to! My curfew until I was 17 was 11PM, and even then I was allowed extentions (like when I was playing D&D, but then that was always no farther than 5 minutes' drive). Once I turned 17, I really didn't have a curfew. I was just told to call home if I planed on staying the night with friends. My parents knew where I was and who I was with whenever I went out. I never understood why some teenagers threw a fit when their parents wanted to know where/who/when, because I was always given quite a bit of freedom by divulging such crucial information.
In fact, at one point my friends asked me why I got more freedom than they did, and I responded "Because I earned it."
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like when I was playing D&D
Ahhh those were the days.......
I never understood why some teenagers threw a fit when their parents wanted to know where/who/when, because I was always given quite a bit of freedom by divulging such crucial information.
Maybe because they were doing something they shouldn't. And it all comes down to being honest.
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Yes, being honest actually IS the best policy, at least if you want trust from your parents. I'm not sure how old I was when I learned it. All I can remember is Mom always got -very- angry if I lied to her. Consequently, I get very, very upset with those I'm close to if they lie to me.
So I was raised to be honest.
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Yes, being honest actually IS the best policy, at least if you want trust from your parents. I'm not sure how old I was when I learned it. All I can remember is Mom always got -very- angry if I lied to her. Consequently, I get very, very upset with those I'm close to if they lie to me.
So I was raised to be honest.
Yep, proves the impact of a good education once more.
My daughters are turning 11 in a few weeks. Not the most dangerous age yet but I'd better be on the lookout right ?
And you do have a point there in your previous posts.
Example , there are quite a lot of friends in their classroom who are strictly limited by their parents concerning internet-time. So in the little time they can spend on line they start looking for the so called 'dangerous' pages...
I choise for an other approach, tmy daughters can surf the internet on any given time. So the excitement of searching the forbidden fruit is gone. They only use the net for schoolwork or the occasionnal game or chat.
:wink:
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I choise for an other approach, tmy daughters can surf the internet on any given time. So the excitement of searching the forbidden fruit is gone. They only use the net for schoolwork or the occasionnal game or chat.
:wink:
Another good solution is to put it in a common area like the living room/great room in the house, there will always be people around.
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I choise for an other approach, tmy daughters can surf the internet on any given time. So the excitement of searching the forbidden fruit is gone. They only use the net for schoolwork or the occasionnal game or chat.
:wink:
Another good solution is to put it in a common area like the living room/great room in the house, there will always be people around.
But how can Shadow then visit those forbidden pages? ;)
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But how can Shadow then visit those forbidden pages? ;)
I'm sure he will find a way to. :wink: My daughters are 11 and 8 years, but i give them indeed limited time on the pc, beause if I let them go, they will sit the hole day on the pc, and the oldest is than only talking about the pc, what drives me crazy. :roll: But if they are on the pc they are going on the internet, mostly indeed do games and chat. The other pc is close near by so I can put an eye on what they are doing.
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But how can Shadow then visit those forbidden pages? ;)
I'm sure he will find a way to. :wink: My daughters are 11 and 8 years, but i give them indeed limited time on the pc, beause if I let them go, they will sit the hole day on the pc, and the oldest is than only talking about the pc, what drives me crazy. :roll: But if they are on the pc they are going on the internet, mostly indeed do games and chat. The other pc is close near by so I can put an eye on what they are doing.
Shadow is going to end up in a magazine article titled "My Dad is an Internet Porn Addict!" :lol:
Jeanny, my dad used to limit me to four hours online, but he soon gave that up. I never really did anything naughty online anyway. I never liked being online all day, though. Your butt tends to fall asleep after awhile.
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:D I have to do the limited time on the computer, once my oldest daughter sat the hole day on the pc, when I came upstairs, she was just like lying almost vertical on the chair, but still chatting *lol* they are do not going to forbidden pages, thats for sure. but My opinion is that there is a lot more for kids to do than only playing and chatting on computers. :wink:
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My opinion is that there is a lot more for kids to do than only playing and chatting on computers. :wink:
Thank $DEITY that we're adults!
SCNR,
Tex
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My son use he's pc for school and yes ofcourse he use msn as well and i think he visit also some adult websites, i dont know for sure but i just ques, he is almost 14 years and afcourse they gonna search for weird things, but i try to keep an eye on it.
My daugher is 9 and i dont want that she is on the internet without my permission and she is not be able to go online when i am not in the room.
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@Virvatuli and Angelofmusic : why not PM some really nice pics of yourselves so that I do not have to visit dirty sites !!
:lol2:
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Another good solution is to put it in a common area like the living room/great room in the house, there will always be people around.
That is excactly what we do man !
As you can see the three of us are sittin' all quite cosy next to eachother !
The eye of dad is looking over their shoulders more than once ! Hahahahaha !
But I must say, they are good girls ! At least up to now... :roll:
(http://us3.pixagogo.com/S572mOVojCsvSa!P8Cg3-PgBRupI60zwkj6Nkp61LSK9u6dIvVL6P!XTax9QDUKwm0cqekiHPxKlGNutgUWjF9dMuJhCypAaOu/1.jpg)
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Wow, Shadow! Nice place there! :shock:
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Yep... and what do I see? A webcam? ;) Private shadow show perhaps? :)
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Yep... and what do I see? A webcam? ;) Private shadow show perhaps? :)
LOL yeah :P bad bad shadowman
btw you have a nice and clean desk :shock: if you see mine desk its........... well u dont wanna see it.
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Wow, Shadow! Nice place there! :shock:
Well thanks man but all credits to my father-in-law...
He is the one building that magnificent one piece three-places-desk !
But the idea was mine !!
:wink:
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Yep... and what do I see? A webcam? ;) Private shadow show perhaps? :)
Hahahahaha ! You are one bad ass girl !! But I like that... *showing evil grin on face*
And Mas, I hate messy desks but just for the pic it was extra tidy
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lol shadowman if my new pc is ready i will make a picture of my desk, at the top of my monitor i have at least 30 magazine's, on my the right of my keyboard i have a dutch to english dictonary but i am to lacy to use it, than on the left at my keyboard i have some maps with things about my pc, if i look to the right i have a printer on a little table, magazines, cd's, headsets, old computer hardware, candles, my router, old software, toilletpaper :roll: i dont know why its there, on the wall i hang up all my concert tickets, than some paintings from the kids, and everyting is braun colored because i smoke to much here, exualy its a dirty place :shock:
the rest of the house is clean.
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Speaking of pictures...I still need to send one to Beckman for the wallpaper thingy he has planned.
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lol shadowman if my new pc is ready i will make a picture of my desk, at the top of my monitor i have at least 30 magazine's, on my the right of my keyboard i have a dutch to english dictonary but i am to lacy to use it, than on the left at my keyboard i have some maps with things about my pc, if i look to the right i have a printer on a little table, magazines, cd's, headsets, old computer hardware, candles, my router, old software, toilletpaper :roll: i dont know why its there, on the wall i hang up all my concert tickets, than some paintings from the kids, and everyting is braun colored because i smoke to much here, exualy its a dirty place :shock:
the rest of the house is clean.
Toiletpaper?? Maybe to blow your nose if you have a cold.. :wink:
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Speaking of pictures...I still need to send one to Beckman for the wallpaper thingy he has planned.
yeah send him a pic, i cant wait before the wallpaper is done. i think its gonna be kewl :D
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I SHOULD be getting some recent ones on Thursday (I guess that's today, but it's only 1 AM at the moment...)
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Great desk, shadow 8)