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Zombies => Metal & Talk (english) => Thema gestartet von: shadowman am Januar 09, 2005, 09:22:33 Nachmittag
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I had some free time on my hands this afternoon and browing through metalpages I stumbled across a Dutch metal site and forum called Zwaremetalen.
Maybe familiar to Mas and Jeanny ?
Anyway, you have no idea how the metal fans treat eachother there !
Ok, I am not a sissy and can take quite a few punches but this is way over the edge.
The agression and hatred going on in there is simply shocking !
The athmosphere is violent, racist and totally way out of line.
Not in a million years would I ever join.
What a relief to come back here...
Have any of you guys had a similar experience about other forums or did i simply pick out an extreme one ?
Really curious about your reacions...
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I know that website and i dont like it there, people are talking very hateful with each other,
i stay here :bluebanger: Bleeding4Metal Rocks!
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Well, I've read a few finnish boards and they all look okay. Only one really bad has crossed my way. They didn't like any newbies there, and they just talked about the "old good days" when that board still was alive. Hmmh. Whatta dilemma.
And I actually searched for metal boards in english for quite a while before I found this one... And didn't like what I saw elsewhere. Some of the boards were too big and messy, and some of them were just not so friendly.
So yes, this is the best online ;)
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I have been to a few and a lot of them surely do not like newbies, they ignored most of my posts or one totally shut me down because of a "misunderstanding" of my posts, the moderator even slandered me by earasing my thread and saying all this bad stuff about me. That has left a bad taste in my mouth and for a while I did not want to join anymore. People seem to think that they are the only way to think and heaven forbid there are any other opinions out there. Personal attacks and such should not be aired out for all to see. Also trolling, which I do not hear about much anymore, was a big problem. I really was fed up with a lot of boards during Stratovarius's drama in the begining of last year, that was such a mess and I almost never posted here or anywhere again. I do belong to another board but that one has been taken over by some people who seem to use it as a chat room and there is not much discussion going on anymore. I really like that band and they actually post regularly, we had some fun during the hockey championships this past summer but then it was no longer any fun. you would always see the same 3 people posting all over the place.
Metalmaiden belongs to other boards and she has had much better sucess than I and I do know that there are some other very good forums out there.
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Oh, so there is hope for the internet community after all...
:roll:
See there is one thing that puzzles me in a way.
Aren't we all serving the same thing when we visit a Metal board ?
After all, it is all about Heavy Metal right ?
We above all should stick together !!
It seems the visitors of Zwaremetalen can't get that through their thick skull..
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I was a member of only one other board: the German Iced Earth Fanboard.
I left after Iced Earth released "The Glorious Burden", and the lyrics of that album were accepted unquestioned by most of the other participants.
That said, I usually prefer Usenet to webboards anyway. So, if I wasn'T writing for Bleeding chances are that I would never have found here.
Greetz,
Tex
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I was a member of only one other board: the German Iced Earth Fanboard.
I left after Iced Earth released "The Glorious Burden", and the lyrics of that album were accepted unquestioned by most of the other participants.
That said, I usually prefer Usenet to webboards anyway. So, if I wasn'T writing for Bleeding chances are that I would never have found here.
Greetz,
Tex
I admit to not liking Iced Earth at all, so I don't have a clue what the lyrics were about. Can you explain a bit? I'm just curious!
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I admit to not liking Iced Earth at all, so I don't have a clue what the lyrics were about. Can you explain a bit? I'm just curious!
Some are concerned with the American history (And I have absolutely no problem with that).
However, the lyrics of two songs made me retch:
'Greenface':
A warrior down to the depths of my soul
I terrorize evil that’s out of control
(First two lines.)
This song is glorifying a US special forces unit. It was not released on the German regular edition but only on the 2CD special edition. I wonder why.
'When the eagly cries'
Another day just like any other
Out of the blue it turned to horror
How could they?
Why would they?
The innocent suffered hell’s inferno
A senseless act that goes unforgotten
How could they?
They will pay
Chorus
When the eagle cries
Blood will flow
When the eagle cries
For freedom’s fight
When the eagle cries
We love her so
When the eagle cries
We will sacrifice
Out of the ashes came a tempting vengeance
But we are focused, we seek redemption
We are free
We’ll stay free
All they’ve done is make us stronger
The sleeping giant is asleep no longer
If need be
We’ll die free
Chorus
When the eagle cries
Blood will flow
When the eagle cries
For freedom’s fight
When the eagle cries
We love her so
When the eagle cries
We will sacrifice
(Full song.)
The question "How could they?" is asked but never reflected or answered. The only reaction to it is aggression "vengeance, redemption, sacrifice".
Without going into a political discussion, this makes me wonder if Mr Schaffer actually realised the reasons for 9/11.
Greetz,
Tex
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I had some free time on my hands this afternoon and browing through metalpages I stumbled across a Dutch metal site and forum called Zwaremetalen.
Maybe familiar to Mas and Jeanny ?
I really don't know them, thats for sure and I will keep it that way. :wink: I am a member of Bleeding :D , our own forum, and another one from a new Dutch metalband.
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If you value your sanity and your blood pressure, stay far, far away from the DragonForce and HammerFall message boards.
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i saw many discussion about lyrics at other boards, ones i visit a board and everyone got mad at me because i listen to Children of Bodom/Norther Tool and Nirvana and A perfect circle.
lyrics are very personally too, mostly when i listen the music i dont understand a lot of the lyrics so....... :roll: and yeah if i read the lyrics than i understand where they sing about.
I told them that i was going to Dynamo open Air and everyone got mad at me because they say the bands you listen are evil..... and they gonna make me evil. :? but thats not true i dont get evil to listen TOOL or APC or COB. But well i still love bands like Tool and COB but i dont visit them messageboard 's because i know how the people talk there and i dont like that.
About Iced earth i never thought about them lyrics, i dont listen much to Iced earth, i know they have a lot of cool songs as well but where the lyrics are about i dont know. but if i read the lyric TexJoachim wrote right now i think yeah thats not good.
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Well Joachim I heard about the issue with Iced Earth lyrics before.
But hey even Slayer and Manowar ("Back to the power of Germany") got accused writing doubtfull lyrics... :roll:
And Angelofmusic, you got me intrigued there about the Dragonforce and Hammerfall forums. Got a bit more info there ?
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The DF forums have calmed down a bit. However, both places are simply crawling with immature idiots. The HF forums especially, racism, sexism, insulting religions and people's taste in music...and moderators who can't do anything about the probem members because they can't ban anyone. Only Kreem (the webmaster) can do that. The mods can only go through and delete problematic posts.
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I second what The Metal RN said and because of that I am quite careful about joining message boards. First I was also reluctant about joining Bleeding because I haven't been listening to metal for long and really felt like a newbie, but everyone on here is great.
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Oh you should have seen Mr. Timo Tolkki's forum...this was hatred.....
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Oh you should have seen Mr. Timo Tolkki's forum...this was hatred.....
So I heard!
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"You are all a big bunch of losers ! You don't know shit about metal !
You are the lowest life form on earth. Your father was stone dead drunk the day he created you ! You are nothing but a pain in the ass and you make my stomach turn over when I just think of your meaningless pityfull life ! I only feel disgusted when I read your posts.
You are all a big load of morons who claim to be clever but can't count up to three.
I am ashamed to belong to the human race when I come realize you are part of it !
Your very presence on these boards make me wanna throw up and I hate the day your were born ! "
So tell me, will this be adequate as my introduction as a new member of
Zwaremetalen.com ??
:mrgreen: :laugh:
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what a *ssholes :? its a shame that dutch people talking like this
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Oh you should have seen Mr. Timo Tolkki's forum...this was hatred.....
The postings at his personal forum...it was all very, very sad. Very ugly. He was trying to promote peace, friendship and tolerance but some individual or individuals just spewed hate forcing its closure. *shakes head*
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Oh you should have seen Mr. Timo Tolkki's forum...this was hatred.....
The postings at his personal forum...it was all very, very sad. Very ugly. He was trying to promote peace, friendship and tolerance but some individual or individuals just spewed hate forcing its closure. *shakes head*
Timo Tolkkis personal forum? Never heard about it... still exists?
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[Timo Tolkkis personal forum? Never heard about it... still exists?
Nope.
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I used to be a regular on his board but and what happened there was just amazing. either way life plays tricks since if I wasnt a regular on this thing I would be joining this board as well as bleeding and would never be able to talk to such wonderful being as yourselves everybody.
I remember that Mr. Timo Tolkki used to promote peace and whatever but he was the first one who started almost all the fights...well that is in the past, I think that he is a very misunderstood person. It was really funny though that from some really bad things good ones come.
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"You are all a big bunch of losers ! You don't know shit about metal !
You are the lowest life form on earth. Your father was stone dead drunk the day he created you ! You are nothing but a pain in the ass and you make my stomach turn over when I just think of your meaningless pityfull life ! I only feel disgusted when I read your posts.
You are all a big load of morons who claim to be clever but can't count up to three.
I am ashamed to belong to the human race when I come realize you are part of it !
Your very presence on these boards make me wanna throw up and I hate the day your were born ! "
So tell me, will this be adequate as my introduction as a new member of
Zwaremetalen.com ??
:mrgreen: :laugh:
This is not normal, and very childish. On another forum, i had discussions with one person, Mas knew who I ment but it was just a discussion, sometimes a bit harder but not anything like this above. Only with normal words, and nothing else. When I read this, in the first I did'nt not believe it, I think this persons brains are going madly. One day someone came tot hat forum and began to shout , well i than shout back and have said to that person that he\she (reply as guest) must go away, and leave the forum. and he or she did that .
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Oh you should have seen Mr. Timo Tolkki's forum...this was hatred.....
this made me almost swear off internet forums, and put me in a bad mood before going to see Stratovarius in Spain last year, thank god a kick ass concert performance by many bands, including Stratovarius changed all that.......
...and thank god for Bleeding!!!!!!
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this made me almost swear off internet forums, and put me in a bad mood before going to see Stratovarius in Spain last year, thank god a kick ass concert performance by many bands, including Stratovarius changed all that.......
...and thank god for Bleeding!!!!!!
Well music has nothing to do with boards but either way. You were on this board? How come I dont remember you?
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And speaking of Stratovarius.......They have announced today the reuniting of the classic STRATOVARIUS lineup of Timo Tolkki, Timo Kotipelto, Jörg Michael, Jari Kainulainen and Jens Johansson after coming to terms with Tolkki's illness. They're working on completely new material for release in late 2005/early 2006.
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And speaking of Stratovarius.......They have announced today the reuniting of the classic STRATOVARIUS lineup of Timo Tolkki, Timo Kotipelto, Jörg Michael, Jari Kainulainen and Jens Johansson after coming to terms with Tolkki's illness. They're working on completely new material for release in late 2005/early 2006.
I read that yesterday. Needless to say I emitted a girly squeak of girlish glee. :)
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a girly squeak of girlish glee. :)
Now that is why I will never be able to speak English/American as you native American/English...
Sad but true... I will never be able to make sentences like these...
:( :( :(
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this made me almost swear off internet forums, and put me in a bad mood before going to see Stratovarius in Spain last year, thank god a kick ass concert performance by many bands, including Stratovarius changed all that.......
...and thank god for Bleeding!!!!!!
Well music has nothing to do with boards but either way. You were on this board? How come I dont remember you?
I got involved through Metalmeltdown, and I was listed as Galahad there. The last straw was all the contorvesy over the concert where people who were not even there telling us what had happened and not beleiving what we were telling them actually happened. But I should mention that was my first experiences on any boards and there were some aspects that I nedded to get used to, anonymity gives people much power/balls/courage to do things they might not be able to say in person........ I should not have let some comments get to me.
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I got involved through Metalmeltdown, and I was listed as Galahad there. The last straw was all the contorvesy over the concert where people who were not even there telling us what had happened and not beleiving what we were telling them actually happened. But I should mention that was my first experiences on any boards and there were some aspects that I nedded to get used to, anonymity gives people much power/balls/courage to do things they might not be able to say in person........ I should not have let some comments get to me.
Oh right...now I remember. I think i must have stopped posting there by the time you were on, and was just checking the posts...well either way, god help us from another Stratovarius release....
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I don't know about that, Elements 2 was really bad but I have been meaning to go back and listen to it knowing what the band was going through while recording it. It might shed soem light on what the songs are about. I still think that they are incredibly talented though I hesitate to decide whether I want new material or just go back to what worked......
I stumbled across Timo T's Classical Variations Cd on the web, and gave it to Metalmaiden for her birthday, it is awesome!
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ive got a new experiences on a dutch nightwish board, i signed up there, i introduced myself, in the begin it was ok, but when i post my third reply, i got a pm from the moderators, My answers are to short :shock:
i pm them back and i ask: what do you mean with my answers are to short? :roll:
they answered to me: Mascha you need to post a longer answer and explane the things better,
But hey this is me, and i dont wanna change myself how i am. So my first thougts are :fuck: them, nobody is gonna tell me what i have to answer.
Well its not worth it to make worry about it.