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Zombies => Falconer => Thema gestartet von: Falconcall am März 25, 2005, 01:08:00 Nachmittag
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I have to admit.
Falconer is one of the greates bands i had ever known
Ihave the 3 albums of them.
The first 2 albums are great, ican listen to them for hours every day.
But, since mathias left falconer and the new singer joind and other of the members
falconer turned into something else. I dont knw if its the singer or the over band but the last album(The Sceptre Of Deception) Trully ruind falconer :evil: .
This album is realy bad one :x .
I hope that u'll find another singer to revive falconer :twisted:
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I think you'd best look out a flame retardant suit (emphasis on retardant) after that one. :lol:
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Come on. It is a very young troll, after all.
Let's not be so hard on him, ok?
I suggest we don't feed him anymore now, do you agree?
:)
Greetz,
Tex
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He's not exactly trolling. He's stating his opinion. He obviously doesn't like Falconer with the new singer.
We don't have to like his opinion, but there's no need to accuse him (her?) of trolling for simply stating an opinion.
That said:
What exactly about Kristoffer's vocals don't you like? I personally think they are alot like Mathias's vocals, but more "gritty." Falconer's sound really hasn't changed much. It's gotten a bit heavier, but it's still good. Do you just not like the new singer, or what?
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I was skeptical as well when Sceptre came out but I gave Kristoffer a chance and when I had consumed the album for what it is and listened to it often enough, I must say that I like it better than Chapters. Of course, Mathias has a grand and clear style of singing that cannot be replaced entirely, but the third album features more powerfull kick-some-butt songs than Chapters, plus it is a concept album and then I also think that together with Lord of the Blacksmiths, the title track "Sceptre..." is the best Falconer song yet. I also agree with the assessment that Kristoffer's vocals aren't too different from Mathias'. As a matter of fact, when I listened to the third album for the first few times, I couldnt really tell between the two singers. I think that with Kristoffer they got the best conceivable replacement.
I think Falconer have continuously been keeping their style and sound and have even improved along the way. Grime vs. Grandeur will show how far they have made it over the last two years. Lets keep our fingers crossed!
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He's not exactly trolling. He's stating his opinion. He obviously doesn't like Falconer with the new singer.
Well, sentences like : "I hope that u'll find another singer to revive falconer" are beyond stating an opinion.
But perhaps I'm overly sensitive, because I had too many discussions about the vocal qualities of Kristoffer Göbel and James LaBrie (Dream Theater).
So, sorry for my harsh statement.
Greetz,
Tex
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I have to admit.
Falconer is one of the greates bands i had ever known
Ihave the 3 albums of them.
The first 2 albums are great, ican listen to them for hours every day.
But, since mathias left falconer and the new singer joind and other of the members
falconer turned into something else. I dont knw if its the singer or the over band but the last album(The Sceptre Of Deception) Trully ruind falconer :evil: .
This album is realy bad one :x .
I hope that u'll find another singer to revive falconer :twisted:
I do not agree whith you my friend. And i think you also will change opinion when you hear the new album Grime vs Grandeur. Belive me :wink:
We who where in kalmar, knows what it is about..
Emotional Skies is one of the best songs i have ever heard.
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I have to admit.
Falconer is one of the greates bands i had ever known
Ihave the 3 albums of them.
The first 2 albums are great, ican listen to them for hours every day.
But, since mathias left falconer and the new singer joind and other of the members
falconer turned into something else. I dont knw if its the singer or the over band but the last album(The Sceptre Of Deception) Trully ruind falconer :evil: .
This album is realy bad one :x .
I hope that u'll find another singer to revive falconer :twisted:
You should hear him (Göbel) on the new album!! Cheeses!
Noone can dislike those vocals!! :D
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AAAAHHHHHHH!
I can't endure this teasing!
I want that album! NOW! :shock: :D
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I will listen to the new album(promise)
maybe you right..
i shouldnt judge the singer this early :)
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\ I also think that together with Lord of the Blacksmiths, the title track "Sceptre..." is the best Falconer song yet. !
Lord of the Blacksmiths is my absolute fav from Falconer!!!
I have been listening more to Septre lately because of all the buzz about the new album and because of all the comments on the new singer. I really did enjoy Septre, I also like change, there were a lot more levels to listen to on the last album, some people might have objected to to many maybe??? :?:
There are so many awesome melodies , and I for one really like the vocal trade offs in Septre (the song) I also really like Wolf so it was nice to have NIklas there as well!!!!!
I am really looking forward to the next album, as are most I see, maybe even one day I will have the pleasure of seeing you guys live!!!!
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I'ds.say.you're.all.mad.not.too.agree.with.him....
The.two.first.Albums.kicks.ass.while.the.newer.one's.are.just.an.album.among.thousands.of.metalalbums....
And.it's.not.his.singing.I.dislike.it's.the.entire.music....Has.hardly.naught.of.yhe.old.touch....
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I'ds.say.you're.all.mad.not.too.agree.with.him....
The.two.first.Albums.kicks.ass.while.the.newer.one's.are.just.an.album.among.thousands.of.metalalbums....
And.it's.not.his.singing.I.dislike.it's.the.entire.music....Has.hardly.naught.of.yhe.old.touch....
Someone's space bar must be broken. :P
You know, we could just as easily say you're mad for agreeing with him. The music, while different than it was when Falconer started it still great. It's also still unlike anything else out there. Ultimately, it's your opinion, but the rest of us don't have to agree with it.
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The album finally arrived, and I think it rocks. Great stuff.
To Falconcall - I liked the first two albums better than Sceptre, but Sceptre isn't bad. Grime vs. Grandeur is better than all three previous albums, in my opinion. The music is so clean, powerful, and well produced and written! And while I do prefer a 'clean' vocal to a more 'crunchy' or 'growly' vocal, Kristoffer does both very well. If you don't believe me, listen to, for example, Child of the Wild... Kristoffer sings wonderfully in that
song. All in all, give it a chance. You won't be dissapointed.
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i liked the best two first albums and when i realized that Falconer changed a singesr i said "oh no why why WHY??". but i decided to hear "Sceptre.." and i enjoyed it!! it has this stuff from this first Falconer albums.when you are listening the music you feel there Falconer and after all Kristopher dosn't have as awesome voice as i thought :p but i'm still trying to convince myself to "grime.." it's different but somoetimes my heart still beats harder :twisted:
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We can't say that Falconer is going down. I was listening to both of albums with Kristoffer and i can say that he is doing great. Its hard to say which singer was better, beacouse both are good. Its my opinion, long live falconer
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Indeed. However, by now everyone should know that Matthias is back. ;)
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Is Matthias back? Should I know something that I still dont know? Who will be the singer in next album?
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Indeed. However, by now everyone should know that Matthias is back. ;)
Yeah I heard that too but there is nothing on the website. On the topic though I remember doing the review of "Scepters..." and saying that Kristofer will have no problem even singing the old stuff somthing that I have learnt is true. Kristofer is as good as Matthias and no one should judje someone's efforts and talent harsh. That is my opinion.
But perhaps I'm overly sensitive, because I had too many discussions about the vocal qualities of Kristoffer Göbel and James LaBrie (Dream Theater).
LOL...what is wrong with James LaBrie?[/code]
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In my opinion, Kriss is an awesome singer and he brought a new, more heavy, aspect to the band which Mathias could not, but in the end I am posititve that Mathias is by far the better singer. Kriss could not sing "The Clarion Call" like Mathias. He does it good, but it doesn't quite live up to the singer who was meant to sing it.
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Falconer should have 2 singers :P Matthias cant do what Kirss do and Kriss cant do what Matthias do, but im happy that Matthias is back. He makes Falconer diffrent than other bands
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Well it does say both in the poop-up and the diary to the right that Mathias is back.
Until our web master gets the new picture up, here you have a link:
http://www.metalblade.de/index.php?mod=artists&page=detail&id=34
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Thanks for the link and i guess that as soon as it will be possible it should be added to official site, beacose seems not everyone knows about it yet. Now im sure that its true, good true that old good Falconer is not going heavy anymore.
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Thanks for the link and i guess that as soon as it will be possible it should be added to official site, beacose seems not everyone knows about it yet.
Speak for yourself, dude... :wink:
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Well it does say both in the poop-up and the diary to the right that Mathias is back.
Until our web master gets the new picture up, here you have a link:
http://www.metalblade.de/index.php?mod=artists&page=detail&id=34
So, is the logo staying the same this time? It was a nice touch to see the slight changes whenever there was a new lineup.
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Well it does say both in the poop-up and the diary to the right that Mathias is back.
Until our web master gets the new picture up, here you have a link:
http://www.metalblade.de/index.php?mod=artists&page=detail&id=34
The "poop-up"? Stefan, if I haven't yet declared my undying love for you, I do so now. I think I laughed for a good five minutes at "poop-up" and will be using that terminology regularly. :D
Also, I love how my friends in Cellador are advertised at the top of that link. YAY! Good metal from the US is getting attention! :)
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The logo is the same as on the latest album
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hey! great new pic there at metal blade!
although the page still lists Kriss as the singer at "line up".
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I like that picture a lot. Much better than the GvG pictures, which were a bit over the top in my opinion. Are there more pictures coming?
That picture has a nice chilly "Northwind" feel to it and it is great to see Mathias in one picture with the rest of the band again. A great sight to behold. I think the whole artwork of the new album should be kept in those "windy" colors like gray and blue.
As for the Band logo, I always liked the first version best (from Falconer and Chapters). The Sceptre version was a bit boring but it was okay to. The GvG version looks great, but the original had an ancient and particularly falcon-like feel. Very much like mighty talons carved in stone. 8)
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As for the Band logo, I always liked the first version best (from Falconer and Chapters). The Sceptre version was a bit boring but it was okay to. The GvG version looks great, but the original had an ancient and particularly falcon-like feel. Very much like mighty talons carved in stone. 8)
You are right. The new logo is pretty slick, and it does look very good, a really well done design. However, the old logo is more old-school looking, and it feels more natural if you will.
A while ago I thought that if the band was to modify their logo again, it would be kind of a merge between those two, as if capturing the fact that Blad is back, into the newest lineup.
And I agree about the pics from Gime vs. Grandeur, I recall that the first thing that went through my mind upon seeing them was "err... what the deuce?". :P
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"What the deuce" - I always have to think of Stewie Griffin when I hear that. lol
I don't think changing the logo with every new line-up would be wise. A band's logo, especially when it's as recognizable as Falconer's, is part of the band's identity. Imagine, say, Iron Maiden redesigning their name logo with every second album...
In my opinion, they should either stick with the one they have now or go back to the original one which I think is the most beautiful version.
That version embodies in my mind the powerful epic style that had made "Falconer" and "Chapters" the unsurpassed masterworks of metal that they are.
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I don't think changing the logo with every new line-up would be wise.
Well, if you plan to change the lineup with every album, then I'd agree. :mrgreen:
A band's logo, especially when it's as recognizable as Falconer's, is part of the band's identity. Imagine, say, Iron Maiden redesigning their name logo with every second album...
Then again, you have bands like Judas Priest, Gamma Ray, Therion, et al. who have changed their logos throughout their careers, and it has not affected them. Although it's true that a logo can become part of the identity of certain bands (Maiden and Helloween come to mind), their music is what truly defines them.
Still, the best part about the changes on Falconer's logo is that they've been kind of variations of a theme.
And now that I'm wrapping up this post I realize how bored we are in this forum when a topic of discussion is the band's logo. :P
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I think the latest logo (i.e. not the first one) is the best. It's more balanced and more graphical. The text definitely looks better (especially the "L" and the "C" part, which kind of falls to the left a bit too much ) as well.
I don't think it's necessary to go back to the first logo just to point out that Mathias is back. I think his return will be very...let's say...noticeable.
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I don't think it's necessary to go back to the first logo just to point out that Mathias is back. I think his return will be very...let's say...noticeable.
You guys are reading too much into this "change the logo to reflect the lineup changes" thing. It was a nice touch when it happened, but it's already been pointed out that it's not changing any time soon, so.. ;)
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:wink:
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I think the newest logo is the best. It has the cool look of the original with the symmetry of the Sceptre version (which was a little boring). The little 'talons' also look very cool.
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The website has been updated! Yay!
www.falconermusic.com
More pictures, please! :twisted:
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There will be more of those in a not too distant future, good sir Nikopol!
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We will stick with the newest logo.
The new one is still a mix between the first and the second (a boring one, yes),
personally I think it's the best one.
Things have changed a bit too much during the last years with both members, the music and the logo.
As I see it we have reached our goal, so we'll just make camp here.
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We will stick with the newest logo.
The new one is still a mix between the first and the second (a boring one, yes),
personally I think it's the best one.
Things have changed a bit too much during the last years with both members, the music and the logo.
As I see it we have reached our goal, so we'll just make camp here.
Reasonable... I like the new band-picture... Though Mathias' doesn't quite fit the style of the other members'... But hey, that's the point, isnt it?
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I love the new pictures! I also love Matthias' leather coat. Did he lose weight? He looks more slender than I remember.
Stefan, would it be possible for someone to email me the new band picture so that I might put it on the Myspace page? I can't find a larger version of it on the site (it's possible I'm not observant.) The one on the "Members bio" page is sliced into sections, and I'm unable to get the full thing. Silabub82@aol.com
If not, I'll just wait until the photos page is updated. Whichever. :)
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It's in the download section as a desktop picture.
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Or you can get it in its original size at http://www.metalblade.de/images/gallery/falconer_1149607669.jpg.
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Thanks alot gentlemen. :) I guess I'll have to resize it. Ah well, that doesn't take too long.
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Imo, the vocal has maybe the most important role in a bands identity. I don't think Falconer is Falconer without Blad, although Kriss did a great job, and yes he does have a voice which sound s a lot like Blad, but it isn't the same.
Falconer imo. without Blad is like Kamelot without Khan, or Opeth without Mikael Åkerfeldt.
I do agree to what someone said earlier, I have also had problems telling the difference some times.
As for the logo, it is practically the same thing, just in a different style, but I like the new style better.