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Zombies => Metal & Talk (english) => Thema gestartet von: The Metal RN am Juli 04, 2005, 11:30:13 Nachmittag
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Well, I am not ashamed of it, but I thought nobody would believe it anyway...
But as I think of The Metal RN's experience with ballerina outfits, I think I can give it a try. :twisted:
We were at the opera, last show of a fairytale ballet. Amusing and enjoyable, really, had a lot of fun sitting in the second row with good view into the orchestra pit as well as onto the stage. The long haired kettledrum player was cool to watch for example (tuning his kettledrums as well as pounding them). :P
When we went to Sweden For the first time in 2003, I went to my first ballet as well. It was pretty cool to finally see one, though it was not teh best production, now I have to go see an opera, but for that I may have to go to Italy or Germany, or maybe just in NY at the Met!!
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Well, I am not ashamed of it, but I thought nobody would believe it anyway...
But as I think of The Metal RN's experience with ballerina outfits, I think I can give it a try. :twisted:
We were at the opera, last show of a fairytale ballet. Amusing and enjoyable, really, had a lot of fun sitting in the second row with good view into the orchestra pit as well as onto the stage. The long haired kettledrum player was cool to watch for example (tuning his kettledrums as well as pounding them). :P
When we went to Sweden For the first time in 2003, I went to my first ballet as well. It was pretty cool to finally see one, though it was not teh best production, now I have to go see an opera, but for that I may have to go to Italy or Germany, or maybe just in NY at the Met!!
I worked as a trainee at the opera in Hannover for a summer, it was very interesting. I got a lots of cards for free, so Iīve seen many things. So I can recommend the hannover operas :wink:
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I worked as a trainee at the opera in Hannover for a summer, it was very interesting. I got a lots of cards for free, so Iīve seen many things. So I can recommend the hannover operas :wink:
"It's not over till the fat lady sings."
;)
This is what crosses my mind whenever I think of operas. (Apart from the lovely browser, that is.)
But I can't stand theatre either, with the notable exception of Shakespeare. And his plays only in the New Globe in London or in any other theatre that will not modernise the plays. (And yes, this means costumes and stage outfit/setup like the ones used by the master himself! I don't want any bloody modern clothes or political readings of his works!)
I'd like to see a good production of Marlow's Faustus, though.
Greetz,
Tex
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Wow, suddenly I feel incredibly uncultivated. :shock:
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Never mind, AoP, I did (and sometimes still do) so as well... but hey, who cares!? In the end we're still metalheads, aren't we? We're supposed to be uncultivated. :lol: :roll:
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I worked as a trainee at the opera in Hannover for a summer, it was very interesting. I got a lots of cards for free, so Iīve seen many things. So I can recommend the hannover operas :wink:
"It's not over till the fat lady sings."
;)
This is what crosses my mind whenever I think of operas. (Apart from the lovely browser, that is.)
But I can't stand theatre either, with the notable exception of Shakespeare. And his plays only in the New Globe in London or in any other theatre that will not modernise the plays. (And yes, this means costumes and stage outfit/setup like the ones used by the master himself! I don't want any bloody modern clothes or political readings of his works!)
Ok, I understand that some people do not need the interpretation at theaher, but its no kind of art to play a play, just in one way. I must not be a political reading, it just can be the reading of an other view - thats waht ist interresting for me, how others interpret the stuff.
:wink:
The ladys could be really fat, and make a terrible sound, but sometimes you could really enjoy this kind of music - maybe this is the wrong page for such sound :wink:
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Never mind, AoP, I did (and sometimes still do) so as well... but hey, who cares!? In the end we're still metalheads, aren't we? We're supposed to be uncultivated. :lol: :roll:
So, my dear - you want to be uncultivated... :hm: :hm:
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Wow, suddenly I feel incredibly uncultivated. :shock:
Theres always Avantasia's Metal Opera 1 & 2 :wink:
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So, my dear - you want to be uncultivated... :hm: :hm:
Of course, as I told you so many times already... :insane: :P
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So, my dear - you want to be uncultivated... :hm: :hm:
Of course, as I told you so many times already... :insane: :P
you never told me, and you are not uncultivated... :insane: :insane:
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Wow, suddenly I feel incredibly uncultivated. :shock:
Theres always Avantasia's Metal Opera 1 & 2 :wink:
Yeah, and DeFeis' "House(s) of Atreus" ;)
But I seriously doubt they matter in this case...
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Ok, I understand that some people do not need the interpretation at theaher, but its no kind of art to play a play, just in one way. I must not be a political reading, it just can be the reading of an other view - thats waht ist interresting for me, how others interpret the stuff.
I have no problem with different readings, but I prefer not to see them.
And yes, it is art to play the plays as Shakespeare intended them to be played. They were made for the masses. (I use to say that if Shakespeare were born today, he would make "Jerry Bruckheimer" movies.)
The actors were interrupted by the audience and forced to react spontaneously to the verbal intrusions. Can you believe that to happen in a "respectable theatre"? I can't.
I've witnessed an actor complaining to his audience because it could not keep quiet. How lame is that? A good actor would have stayed in his role and lectured the audience accordingly.
:)
In Shakespeare's time, plays were not considered what they are considered now: high art. During the middle ages, plays had been effectively suppressed, apart from the re-enactment of the Christmas story in church. Only in the early modern age, plays were again being written. The most prestigious art of the English court (and therefore Shakespeare's, too) was sonnets! By the time Shakespeare came around, the sonnets had been around for long and he ridiculed them in his sonnet circle.
(If you read it closely, you'll notice that most of them are directed towards a boy and the rest to a dark lady. Now, the lyrical I has stong feelings for both of them and in one sonnet is highly jealous because something happened between the boy and the lady. But I digress.)
Also, if a play was no longer making any money, it was cast aside and S. sat down and wrote another one. Just like todays movies.
Needless to say that S.'s plays do have a quality of their own, but that is mainly because they feature topics that are still appealing to us today: love, revenge, hate.
There is no need to reinterpret Macbeth with Nazi insignia, to give a crude but nonetheless valid example. There is just a need of decent actors. (Many hobby-actors on renaissance fairs would give pros a run for their money as on these fairs a great deal of stage-audience interaction is still present.)
Greetz,
Tex
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So, my dear - you want to be uncultivated... :hm: :hm:
I..think...it...would...be...best...to...leave...this...thread...now!
;)
Greetz,
Tex
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you never told me, and you are not uncultivated... :insane: :insane:
Oh no, did I forget those irony tags once again? Sorry... :silly:
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Wow, suddenly I feel incredibly uncultivated. :shock:
Theres always Avantasia's Metal Opera 1 & 2 :wink:
Yeah, and DeFeis' "House(s) of Atreus" ;)
But I seriously doubt they matter in this case...
Oh, I think they do. The stage production with the Staatstheater from... erm... forgot the name of that city, was from southern Germany... Meinzingen or s.th. like that... eh, what I wanted to say, the production was great!
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Ah, opera... Okay. Not. Opera is just so not my cup of tea. Seriouslly.
But theatre. Yes... And musicals, though I don't have great experience in them at live yet...
But I did see the "We will rock you" by Queen and Ben Elton at the Dominion, and oh boy oh boy.. I've never been a great fan of Queen. I mean, I like them and rispect them , but there are better bands imo. But anyways, that musical totally rocked. It was funny, great songs, the leading singers could have been better, but the rest made it up and ah... It was definetly worth paying for.
(Yep, goes with the topic... Couldn't just help myself, you all talking about this kinda stuff :) )
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And yes, it is art to play the plays as Shakespeare intended them to be played. They were made for the masses. (I use to say that if Shakespeare were born today, he would make "Jerry Bruckheimer" movies.)
The actors were interrupted by the audience and forced to react spontaneously to the verbal intrusions. Can you believe that to happen in a "respectable theatre"? I can't.
I've witnessed an actor complaining to his audience because it could not keep quiet. How lame is that? A good actor would have stayed in his role and lectured the audience accordingly.
In Shakespeare's time, plays were not considered what they are considered now: high art. During the middle ages, plays had been effectively suppressed, apart from the re-enactment of the Christmas story in church. Only in the early modern age, plays were again being written. The most prestigious art of the English court (and therefore Shakespeare's, too) was sonnets! By the time Shakespeare came around, the sonnets had been around for long and he ridiculed them in his sonnet circle.
(If you read it closely, you'll notice that most of them are directed towards a boy and the rest to a dark lady. Now, the lyrical I has stong feelings for both of them and in one sonnet is highly jealous because something happened between the boy and the lady. But I digress.)
Also, if a play was no longer making any money, it was cast aside and S. sat down and wrote another one. Just like todays movies.
Needless to say that S.'s plays do have a quality of their own, but that is mainly because they feature topics that are still appealing to us today: love, revenge, hate.
There is no need to reinterpret Macbeth with Nazi insignia, to give a crude but nonetheless valid example. There is just a need of decent actors. (Many hobby-actors on renaissance fairs would give pros a run for their money as on these fairs a great deal of stage-audience interaction is still present.)
Greetz,
Tex
Ok, Shakespeare of course is great and he made great art - for his century.
I think itīs a question of understanding the meaning of art - wich is naturally individual.
For me art is a process of constructing reality, making people wake up from living blind (in the matrix of media-constructed reality) . Producing consciousness is really hard today. In Shakespeares time he gets reactions of people with his provacative intended plays. So his kind of stuff interested people and gets them thinking. Of course this sort of stuff is always current, but it doesnīt reach most people in the historical way of presentation.
Today there must be much more provocation to get people thinking. To put a play on stage like it has been in the 18th century is a replay, a try to construct a historic view but it will not wake up many people. Watching literature as a mirror of the time, in which the author lived is surely interesting but I think itīs even not possible to know what Shakespeare intended.
The actors reacting with the visitors is a special thing. I think this could be very intersting, and I know some kind of theaters (improvisation) in wich this is often used, but there are even special visitors. It would be very complicated to get these media-contaminated viewers to a reaction on what they see - so even more provacation is needed.
Nearly every author and director would be proud if his play would produce a reaction in the viewers crowd. Some really negative provocations are the result. I donīt need any naked people on stage, but some directors seem to be under coercion to integrate some. Meanwhile it is boring an destroys the making of consciousness.
:wink:
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I haven't seen many plays or anything, but I'd love to at some point. My band does a little bit of theatrics. Whereas most fantasy themed power metal bands just sing about the songs, my band wears costumes and weapons on stage and have little theatric moments worked into our performance. It's a lot of fun, I get to carry around this claymore and everything. :D
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Mmmm..Shakespeare..From all the plays of his i've read, i love Midsummer dream the best.Oberon and Titania are the best characters created IMHO and the whole play is so out of the ordinary..I love it.
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You're talking about "A midsummer night's dream", aren't you d.j.? I saw that when I was quite a lot younger back in grammar school already... I suppose I was too young for Shakespeare back then because a lot of people I talked to actually liked that play.
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You're talking about "A midsummer night's dream", aren't you d.j.? I saw that when I was quite a lot younger back in grammar school already... I suppose I was too young for Shakespeare back then because a lot of people I talked to actually liked that play.
Haha..yeah, i forgot to write "A" & "night's" :)
By the way, the exact play is on these days in Athens as a Rock musical. Kicking ass!!!
Maybe you should pay us a visit and get the chance to see it again as an adult this time :wink:
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Sounds like an excellent idea, but I'm so completely out of money... I even have to borrow the money for my newspapers ;)
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Sounds like an excellent idea, but I'm so completely out of money... I even have to borrow the money for my newspapers ;)
This money thing is ggrggmmmmphhh!!!!!
I really wish things change for you..
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Thanks! I'm hoping for August in which I'll be working all month long...
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Thanks! I'm hoping for August in which I'll be working all month long...
May i ask the nature of the job?
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Typical student-during-holidays-job, though it's the first time for quite a while that I'm not working in an office. I'll be rejoining my former employer and among other things will be drilling holes into gears, do the quality control and stuff like that... piece-work wage of course. Not entertaining but paid very well.
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Typical student-during-holidays-job, though it's the first time for quite a while that I'm not working in an office. I'll be rejoining my former employer and among other things will be drilling holes into gears, do the quality control and stuff like that... piece-work wage of course. Not entertaining but paid very well.
Hmmm.. you have a way of explaining but being elusive at the same time. :lol:
Drilling holes into gears :?: do the quality control... i did the quality control in my last job, but i'm not sure if my job has to do anything with yours...so are you gonna let me guess or what?? :wink:
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I'd sure like to go more into detail, but I just can't - because I don't exactly know what I'll be doing. That drill-holes-into-gears-and-check-whether-the-gears-will-work is what I was told so far, but work time will be filled with a number of other jobs of course...
I won't know before August 1st, and most likely won't be introduced to all my duties on the first day...
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I'd sure like to go more into detail, but I just can't - because I don't exactly know what I'll be doing. That drill-holes-into-gears-and-check-whether-the-gears-will-work is what I was told so far, but work time will be filled with a number of other jobs of course...
I won't know before August 1st, and most likely won't be introduced to all my duties on the first day...
Ok AoP, you're gonna let me guess :lol: has your job got anything to do with clothing?
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Uh, no, I thought it was pretty clear when I spoke of gears? Did you recently witness t-shirts or skirts with gears as accessoires? ;)
My employer is Germany's second biggest (Europe's #4) manufacturer of trucks and busses. Their motor production facility is located nearby, which does not only produce motors for trucks and busses but also for ships, energy production and more. I suppose a lot of gears are required for all those motors...
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Uh, no, I thought it was pretty clear when I spoke of gears? Did you recently witness t-shirts or skirts with gears as accessoires? ;)
My employer is Germany's second biggest (Europe's #4) manufacturer of trucks and busses. Their motor production facility is located nearby, which does not only produce motors for trucks and busses but also for ships, energy production and more. I suppose a lot of gears are required for all those motors...
Well, the word gear has another meaning also, obviously not applying to yr job. :lol:
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Phew, I didn't know how many other meanings "gear" can have... Amazing.