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Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: shadowman am Oktober 15, 2004, 10:12:06 Nachmittag
Ok ! Time to move on !

Eager to learn right ?

Since our good friend The metal RN was so anxious to know what country came next I suggest we do him the honour to continue with his homeland ! The united States of America !

Question remains : when you think about the USA you think about ...

Just one tiny little rule, if I may be so bold, please do not go on about Politics, we may all have our opinion about the foreign policy of the USA and if someone wants to open a topic about that, who am I to forbid that, but in here we are trying to figure out a bit more of the people and the way of life... So...

Boy ! I  sound like a school teacher for cryin' out loud !! :laugh:
Sorry not the intention but I am sure you catch my drift right ?

So euh... USA ! Where to start ???

Ok, don't shoot me American bleeders, just saying what comes to mind here...

Junk food, many overweight people, BIG country, contradiction : land of the free - national scandal about one naked boob ( :wink: ), high criminal rate, Star Trek, Married with Children, Friends, enthousiastic people, big -bigger- biggest...


Gonna keep it limited to this  for the moment since I don't wanna give our American dude too much work in responding to our remarks !!

 8)
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: Odin am Oktober 15, 2004, 10:47:58 Nachmittag
big, bigger, biggest, yeah. And that's why one or two people can probably not tell us much ab out the whole USA, but maybe the single states they know and/or live in. Way too big and differential country on the whole, I think.

Route 66. :)

Fuel doesn't cost a fortune -> big cars wasting fuel and cruising around. ;)
Titel: Re: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: TexJoachim am Oktober 15, 2004, 10:53:00 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "shadowman"
Ok ! Time to move on !


I still like to stay a while further...
Now, if you want to go west, I'm not holding you back...
;)

Zitat

Question remains : when you think about the USA you think about ...


I personally think about Douglas Stevenson.
You probably don't know him.

He was a professor of mine at the university. Very nice guy, very learned, very sick humour. I have learned more of him than from any other professor.
And in more than one way, too. He actually wrote the English-books I used in school!

Unfortunately, he had to return to the states this year, because his wife could not stand the German climate.
Oh well, they now live somewhere in Arizona, so if you ever meet 'em please greet them from me, ok?

Zitat

Boy ! I  sound like a school teacher for cryin' out loud !! :laugh:


You don't. Believe me, as I have the comparison.
:)


Zitat

Ok, don't shoot me American bleeders, just saying what comes to mind here...


I hope no not-US citizens take this as an invitation to open the fire on you....
;)

Zitat

Junk food, many overweight people, BIG country, contradiction : land of the free - national scandal about one naked boob ( :wink: ), high criminal rate, Star Trek, Married with Children, Friends, enthousiastic people, big -bigger- biggest...


PMRC is what comes to my mind. And it wasn't simply a breast, it was a pierced breast. Oh my god! Think about this! A pierced breast!
BTW: the world's largest porn business (production and consumption) is in the states.
Hypocrisy!

Greetz,

Tex
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: shadowman am Oktober 15, 2004, 11:10:47 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "Odin"
big, bigger, biggest, yeah. And that's why one or two people can probably not tell us much ab out the whole USA, but maybe the single states they know and/or live in. Way too big and differential country on the whole, I think.

;)


Very good point !!
Still we will be getting some info on one specific area then ??

Oh and I forget to mention one strange american phenomenon.
Last night I saw a documentary about the Venice hotel in Las Vegas where they tried to make an excact copy of the city of Venice in Italy, complete with historical buildings, canals and singing gondeliers !

Only one small detail : everything is made out of plastic, cardboard and isomo (hope this is the correct english word?)...
The spokesman said it was a succesfull effort to create the typical 'venice athmosphere' !!
HILARIOUS !! This guy was standing in the middle of a plastic city in the middle of the desert !
Now that is what I call American ! Not one single European would buy that kind of that crap ! Sorry metal RN...
 :roll:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: TexJoachim am Oktober 15, 2004, 11:15:39 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "Odin"

Route 66. :)


There even was a route 666!
Unfortunately it was renamed this year.
:(

Greetz,

Tex
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: Virvatuli am Oktober 15, 2004, 11:15:48 Nachmittag
Oh... The Big USA...  :shock:
I've been there once for 5 weeks and am eager to get back there... despite the fact that the country by itself is a catastrof (12.15 a.m after a few glasses :cheers: , dunno how to spell anymore ;) )the people are soooo friendly... atleast the ones I know :) But maybe that's just the way the other world (other than finland;) works.
Central park comes to mind.. and WTC :( And supersized meals... Even I couldn't finish those dishes... BIGBIG people. Skinny models. Superstars. Hollywood. And those stupid, irritating mindless TV shows....The poor&homeless... USA - everything, for good and worse.
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: shadowman am Oktober 15, 2004, 11:23:29 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "TexJoachim"
Zitat von: "Odin"

Route 66. :)


There even was a route 666!
Unfortunately it was renamed this year.
:(

Greetz,

Tex


Is that true ??

 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: TexJoachim am Oktober 15, 2004, 11:36:57 Nachmittag
Both is true: the highway existed, was renamed and now most of the motels and other business along the road went belly-up. The name of the highway was the only thing that brought tourists intop that part of the US.

Greetz,

Tex
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: Forsaken am Oktober 16, 2004, 12:02:52 Vormittag
israel
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: <Horus-Nikopol> am Oktober 16, 2004, 01:03:53 Nachmittag
*sings softly*
"Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord, He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored..."

Well well well the U S and A. Let's see what comes to my mind, shall we?

 :bluebanger: BRAINSTORMING!!! :bluebanger:

War of Independence, ID4, Mel Gibson, Creationism (bah!), Superbowl, fat people, retards who steal elections, first country in history to profess freedom of press, most powerful nation, wrestling (today's roman empire cf. its power and the (american) gladiators), Jerry Springer, grand skylines, fear and loathing in las vegas, melting pot of cultures, national pride, pledge of allegiance, charlton heston and his gun-maniacs, michael moore and his tree-huggers, South Park, junk food, hollywood, rock 'n roll, arnold schwarzenegger AND the big Star Spangled Banner that hangs in my room (over the radiator which is why its moving all the time and really contributes to the metal and the movie scores i listen to)
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: grym am Oktober 16, 2004, 05:52:53 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "<Horus-Nikopol>"
Mel Gibson


He's Australian  :wink:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: <Horus-Nikopol> am Oktober 16, 2004, 06:04:07 Nachmittag
Yes of course he is Australian. Still hes a typical conservative hyper-religious George Bush type of American to me. And have you ever seen The Patriot?
No need to mention the Passion of the Christ...  :ass:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: grym am Oktober 16, 2004, 06:11:49 Nachmittag
No, i havn't seen either of those.

Have you seen Gallipoli? (sp) That film was his big break, and that accent's his real accent.
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: <Horus-Nikopol> am Oktober 16, 2004, 06:16:02 Nachmittag
No I havent seen that one. But Ive seen Mad Max in Australian - I know why they actually re-synchronized it in normal (that is, American) English!!  :wink:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: This Dying Soul am Oktober 17, 2004, 09:49:58 Vormittag
hrm what comes to mind when I think american.. ok this is really going to probly give us americans a bad image but hey I am not of normal breading stock and let us not forget I am really messed in the head for three reasons.. where do you get redneck, a drummer and a man of metal all together and create one individual lmao  :ass: ..

any ways what comes to mind when I think of my proud and glorious country.......


Hot rods, Hot chicks, muscle cars, drag racing (and i dont mean queers dressing as men and racing down the walkway either.. nothing against gays just not a part of their culture) big 4x4 trucks full of mud, 4x4'en the country side. chicks in tight wrangler jeans and breast blowing out the top of their shirts wearing cow boy hats, all the fishing and hunting you coud ever ask for,  endless fields of beuty, cattle in the country and the smell of manure. late nights on the porch watching the stars on our side of the pond..... country music and metal, big macs and super sized frys, and yes fat people too.. peterbuilt extended hood flat top semis flying down the high way all lit up in the night with lights (as us chicken truckers call em chicken lights)  the C.B radio blaring and talking about where the bears (cops) are laying out waiting for us truckers who drive fast and illeagal, being a nomad of the country.. the freedom of riding my hawg (harley davidson) big BBQ's with truckers at a truck stop or rest area some where,,,

a vast side of country and acres of beuty to myself out in the middle of no where, where my nearest neigbor is 40 acres from me, nice people, a american flag in my room and a confederate flag that hangs right next to it because I believe to a point southern style (no I am not rasist my best friend and brother in arms is 7 foot 2 and black).. carpenter jeans, tan leather work boots, nascar tee shirts and my dale earnhardt jr hat on backwards..

their is more but this is a start.. like I said I am different then most.....
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: shadowman am Oktober 17, 2004, 10:13:09 Vormittag
Wow !
That is already an impressive list there Ryan !
Thanks for the reaction so far !
You really live by that 'born to live, live to ride' - feeling right ?

Could you tell us what part of the country you are from ?
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: This Dying Soul am Oktober 17, 2004, 11:03:58 Vormittag
well i am origionally from the state of Washington which is in the northwest corner of the continental united states, but have lived in alaska, oregon, california, florida, north carolina ohio and now indiana.

in all the states i have viewed and wittnessed many diferences from one state to the other, but at the same time i see alot of the same things, just sometimes in different manors.. also being a truck driver and an avid motorcyclis I also get to see alot of the country from a personal view and aspect of things. ranging from a wide variety of people, talents, ways of living, culteral atmosphere do to geographical location and such. all in all I see that americans are all about the same in alot of aspects though depending on what part of the country you are from ways of living and values are alot different. no matter where you go in this country you will never escape hatred. though there are places where there are nicer people and such depending on communitees their will never be an end to hatred here. and that is the true miss unfortion of my country you always see me so proud of. if it isnt due to rasicm, it is politicts, power, money, religion, slefishness and uncarring....

all in all though I am very proud of who I am my enviroment and where I stand in life and in this country.. truly I am a country man and all and yes, I do believe in the saying "ride to live and live to ride" its a thing of pride. because their is only three things in this country that makes me feel true freedom. well four but one i dont need to mention lmao.. 1.riding my motor cycle, driving semi truck, and running down the quarter mile as fast as I can make my car run.....
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: shadowman am Oktober 18, 2004, 09:18:33 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "This Dying Soul"
well i am origionally from the state of Washington which is in the northwest corner of the continental united states, but have lived in alaska, oregon, california, florida, north carolina ohio and now indiana.

..


Impressive !
Is this an American thing as well ?
Moving so much ?
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: This Dying Soul am Oktober 18, 2004, 11:14:46 Nachmittag
lol.. nah it isnt.. i jsut like to be on the move.. thoughi am getting ready to finally settle down i think.. it was more of i was looking for the right place to actually call my home and I figured that the only way to do so was to check out a few states that I actually liked.. and well I think i have found that place.. I am going to be going back to NC soon.. better then any other place to be.. very homy, people are AWSOME with a capitol A and it is jsut plumb sexy their....... so no it isnt an american thing so much as it is a "ME" thing....
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: Metalmaiden am Oktober 19, 2004, 03:14:24 Vormittag
Zitat von: "shadowman"
Zitat von: "TexJoachim"
Zitat von: "Odin"

Route 66. :)


There even was a route 666!
Unfortunately it was renamed this year.
:(

Greetz,

Tex


Is that true ??

 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:


He's absolutely right!

(http://home.ripway.com/2004-7/147379/666.jpg)

They have this system for numbering highways here and it just sort of happened. That was 1926,  it was named that as an offshoot road of Route 66. They finally remaine it in 2003 Route 491.
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: Metalmaiden am Oktober 19, 2004, 03:49:54 Vormittag
Been away for a few days so I haven't  fully digested (no pun intended here) all that was said here but  one thing struck me from  all your comments. ....Yes this is a very vast country so areas are different from each other but I think the image, repeated by most of  BIG, BIGGER , BIGGEST, IS  totally accurate!! America is  oversized everything. "Super sized".  We are unashamed and  unrepenting overconsumers of everything. We're overweight and just plain FAT! From North to South, from sea to shining sea! (And I think, I hope at least,  we are just beginning to understand  the error of our ways.)
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: This Dying Soul am Oktober 19, 2004, 09:12:07 Vormittag
Zitat von: "Metalmaiden"
 We are unashamed and  unrepenting overconsumers of everything.


hey mom welcome back, but speak for yourself.. I didnt get this biker fluffy ass, billy "BIG" rigger belly for nothing.. that was alot of hard work doing them bad ass "super sized" meals from the Mickey D's menu  :lol2:  :lol:  :insane:  :mrgreen:  :laugh:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: evilshell am Oktober 19, 2004, 10:45:37 Vormittag
I've kind of been waiting to see what everyone said before I chimed in here.

I'm an American expat, born and raised in Cleveland, Ohio, spent 12 years (my 20s and early 30s) in the NYC area and moved to Switzerland two years ago.  

Yep, americans are overweight. I should know, I'm one of them :) However, the Germans are also overweight, as are the Brits and many French (at least here in the Alsace region). It is a global problem, except that it partially started in the States and its fetish for everything being bigger - including the meal portions.  Bigger is better - but while that is the prevailing attitude and the population size is getting larger by the day, there is still a tremendous amount of discrimination against overweight people. Hell, discrimination against anything and anyone that doesn't fit the "norm". And that is America - a country of dichotomies.

When I think of America, I think of how the country is perceived in the world. There was an article in a local free newspaper yesterday about how the presidential election is more like rock star antics than about politics. That is pretty global for the entire country.

America is a beautiful country. Some of the people are wonderful. But it is a country of extremes. Extreme poverty sitting next to extreme wealth. Extreme intelligence and creativity next to ignorance and illiteracy.

After my last trip back, I described it as being the place of "plastic people in plastic homes with plastic lives". I'm sure that's going to offend a lot of other Americans - but that's how I felt after being away from the country for just over a year (at the time of that visit). Of course, not everyone is like that , but we are talking stereotypes here  - and that was mine :)
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: This Dying Soul am Oktober 19, 2004, 11:39:26 Vormittag
I feel so betrayed.... HATER!!!!!!!!

LOL sorry shelly just joking with ya.. I dont really hate youf ro what you said.. even though you left us to be with out you and went to switz your still all american to me babe and you have like any one else your right to opinion here right.. just read my posts I am sure there are people who arent happy with me bacue of certain things that I said and well who gives a shit I am not here to make every one happy.. just the ones who aggree with me eh.. lmao.. love ya all....
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: evilshell am Oktober 19, 2004, 08:04:43 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "This Dying Soul"
I feel so betrayed.... HATER!!!!!!!!

LOL sorry shelly just joking with ya.. I dont really hate youf ro what you said.. even though you left us to be with out you and went to switz your still all american to me babe and you have like any one else your right to opinion here right.. just read my posts I am sure there are people who arent happy with me bacue of certain things that I said and well who gives a shit I am not here to make every one happy.. just the ones who aggree with me eh.. lmao.. love ya all....


Oh - don't get me wrong, I'm not a hater! Although some call me a traitor simply because I left, but that's different. ;)

I may be American by birth, but I've not been American by mind (at least not completely, there are some things which are so undeniably American about me that they hurt! :) ) since I was a teenager.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion - and just because they're different doesn't make them any less valid. I liked seeing what you said about the States - you've given me a view of our country that I can't ever see.

Edited to fix a silly word typo
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: shadowman am Oktober 19, 2004, 09:47:11 Nachmittag
Splendid description Evilshell.
This is more or less a confirmation of the thoughts I have about tte USA.

I must admit, I' ve never been over the great ocean to visit your -as Ryan says- undeniable beautiful country. Isn't it striking that us Europeans never talk about the richness and the beauty of the country when we talk about America. I pleed guilty as well I'm afraid.  :oops:

Things in Amerika's recent history  have undoubtably changed the way non US citizens talk about -and look at - America and I am afraid not for the better... :cry:

Isn't it so that America displays itself in a twisted way to the rest of the world ? Just look at tv shows, movies etc... So many negative aspects of the American society are repeated constantly, homicide, rape, drugs, organized crime, overpopulated prisons... Believe me, many Europeans are simply afraid to make a trip to the States.

 :cry:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: TexJoachim am Oktober 19, 2004, 10:15:16 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "shadowman"

Things in Amerika's recent history  have undoubtably changed the way non US citizens talk about -and look at - America and I am afraid not for the better... :cry:


How right you are.
:(

Zitat

Believe me, many Europeans are simply afraid to make a trip to the States.


Wouldn't say that. I'd rather say that losts of Europeans don't want to visit a country that unfortunately turns more and more into a police state.
Don't get me wrong, I have absolutely nothing against America or Americans. I have worked for US compainies, met nice US citizens...

But seeing that the DMCA is actually used against people voicing their opinion, seeing that foreigners are photographed and have to leave a fingerprint when crossing the border and that foreigner's information has to be released by flight companies in advance makes me sick. No one gets told where or how long this information is stored, what it is used for and who will get into contact with it.
Coming from a country that once was a totalitarian state (Nazi Germany) and just reunited with a state that was a totalitarian state merely 15 years ago (GDR) this makes me angry.

I'd love to experience the Indian Summer, but I'll never share my personal data without knowing what will happen to it...
:(

Greetz,

Tex
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: The Metal RN am Oktober 20, 2004, 12:19:20 Vormittag
Hello, time for me to chirp in with my two cents!

Zitat von: "shadowman"

Things in Amerika's recent history  have undoubtably changed the way non US citizens talk about -and look at - America and I am afraid not for the better... :cry:


This is undeniably true.

From my perspective, I have seen/felt this. This is an election year for our President to be elected, and there has been so much negative campaigning going around,you can not escape it. What happened on 9/11/2001 was frightening, confusing, and unsettling. What is going on in Iraq and Afghanistan is frightening, confusing and unsettleing. i was really starting to feel anger and sadness for what I felt this country was becoming. The media are constantly focusing on the negative, all you see is what is wrong.

I had a chance to go to my nations capitol in September. i had never been there, and it was awesome. I felt a real surge of patriotism. Here we have wonderful monuments to great leaders in our past, Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, FDR (Roosevelt), and there are memorials to great atrocities (war and the holocaust).  There are numerous museums and exhibits, free to the public that showcase great accomplishments and achievments. It was unbeleivable. I think that when most foreigners visit the USA, they visit New York, but this only serves to perpetuate the stereotype of bigger is better. We are a country of diverse states. I live in the Northeast section of the US, known for its wonderful Autumn foliage color changes. I have been lucky enough to go to Hawaii, the opposite end of the country, ahhhhhh..... paradise. We have the Grand Canyon, the Rocky Mountains, and great national parks such as Yellowstone.

As has been pointed out we are a country of contradiction we have some of the richest rich and the poorest poor. But we are also a very diverse country, we were founded by immigrants from other countries, the melting pot (as I beleive Horus stated 8)  ). we have had a turbulent history. The war for Independence, the Civil war, Civil rights movement. That creates a opportunity for a great exchange of ideas and philosophies, I only hope that we can use it to our advantage and learn from our mistakes, even the ones we make today.
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: AngelOfMusic am Oktober 20, 2004, 01:14:40 Vormittag
Metalmaiden prodded me to join in the discussion here, so here I am.

Whatever gave you the idea I was from the midwest?  It couldn't be something over to the left under my user picture, could it?  :lol:


Well, as an American, when I think if my country I think of fields full of beans and corn, cattle roaming around (hey, they ARE fenced in. :D) and people who LOVE Europeans.  I kid you not.  People in this country are so enchanted by anyone who visits from a foriegn land, especially if you're from Europe.  We're especically crazy for accents.  If you've ever seen Love Actually, you know the scene where Collin gets to the US and the three girls are so amused and enchanted by his accent?  That's not filmmaker fancy, that's seriously how alot of people act when they meet someone from outside of the US.  :lol:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: Metalmaiden am Oktober 20, 2004, 03:57:20 Vormittag
*Cattle.Prod. hehe*

Thanks for joining in AngelofMusic. Great to hear your views.

And about the love of accents  (& Europeans in general) -- I am definitely guilty as charged.

 oh, and @Horus-Nikopol I thought your list  was   very  good!
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: AngelOfMusic am Oktober 20, 2004, 05:17:09 Vormittag
I'm also one of those accent-loving Americans.  I was in seventh heaven when I went to London over the summer.
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: The Metal RN am Oktober 20, 2004, 02:44:25 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "Metalmaiden"

And about the love of accents  (& Europeans in general) -- I am definitely guilty as charged.


Being the melting pot does allow you to indulge in this here in some capacity as well my dear.  :D
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: Metalmaiden am Oktober 21, 2004, 02:17:42 Vormittag
No real myths to dispell in your comments so I'll just add some thoughts off the top of my head. I hope this post isn't TOO BIG.

Freedom/Responsibility,  Liberty Bell, Statue of Liberty, Bill of Rights,  Yellowstone park, Yosemite, Sequois, Old Faithful, Hoover Dam, Niagra Falls, Vermont granite, Pilgrims and Plymouth Rock, Maine lobsters, Maryland crabs, Clambakes, Louisiana crayfish, New Jersey tomatos, Georgia peaches, Philly Cheese Steak, Corndogs, cottom candy, State Fairs, Rodeos, Ten Gallon hats, Oil wells, Mesas, The Mile High City,  The Rockies, Bean Town, Wisconson cheese heads,  Disneyland, Las Vegas -showgirls and gambling, Painted Dessert, The Grand Canyon,  saltflats, Death Valley, Wounded Knee, Idaho potatos and Iowa corn, Cattle,  the praries, the Plains and Buffalo,  New England fall foliage, maple sugaring time,  apple picking,  World Series (baseball), Super Bowl, Mississippi River Boats,  Mardi Gras, Detroit Motor City, The Windy City, Appalechia, Florida Hardcore Metal, Seattle Grunge, The Blues and ALL its styles, Bluegrass, Dixieland, Eastcoast/Westcoast,  Lala land (L.A.), Golden Gate Bridge,  surf's up and hang ten, Chevy/Ford, Indy 500, Kentucky Derby and mint julups, Spring Break, Yale/Harvard, land of plenty, FDR, JFK, MLK, NYC,DC, All men are created equal, the American Dream.
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: AngelOfMusic am Oktober 21, 2004, 03:01:45 Vormittag
Zitat von: "Metalmaiden"
No real myths to dispell in your comments so I'll just add some thoughts off the top of my head. I hope this post isn't TOO BIG.

Freedom/Responsibility,  Liberty Bell, Statue of Liberty, Bill of Rights,  Yellowstone park, Yosemite, Sequois, Old Faithful, Hoover Dam, Niagra Falls, Vermont granite, Pilgrims and Plymouth Rock, Maine lobsters, Maryland crabs, Clambakes, Louisiana crayfish, New Jersey tomatos, Georgia peaches, Philly Cheese Steak, Corndogs, cottom candy, State Fairs, Rodeos, Ten Gallon hats, Oil wells, Mesas, The Mile High City,  The Rockies, Bean Town, Wisconson cheese heads,  Disneyland, Las Vegas -showgirls and gambling, Painted Dessert, The Grand Canyon,  saltflats, Death Valley, Wounded Knee, Idaho potatos and Iowa corn, Cattle,  the praries, the Plains and Buffalo,  New England fall foliage, maple sugaring time,  apple picking,  World Series (baseball), Super Bowl, Mississippi River Boats,  Mardi Gras, Detroit Motor City, The Windy City, Appalechia, Florida Hardcore Metal, Seattle Grunge, The Blues and ALL its styles, Bluegrass, Dixieland, Eastcoast/Westcoast,  Lala land (L.A.), Golden Gate Bridge,  surf's up and hang ten, Chevy/Ford, Indy 500, Kentucky Derby and mint julups, Spring Break, Yale/Harvard, land of plenty, FDR, JFK, MLK, NYC,DC, All men are created equal, the American Dream.


The mention of all that food made me very hungry.  Mmm...Nothing beats a corn dog from the State Fair.  OOH!  Except for fried pickles or oreos from the state fair!  Yum, fattening!
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: The Metal RN am Oktober 21, 2004, 04:25:26 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "AngelOfMusic"

The mention of all that food made me very hungry.  Mmm...Nothing beats a corn dog from the State Fair.  OOH!  Except for fried pickles or oreos from the state fair!  Yum, fattening!


Not to mention Apple pie with a nice big chunk of cheddar cheese!!!!!!! :lol:  or maybe funnel cakes!!!! I really want some dessert now! :P
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: The Metal RN am Oktober 21, 2004, 04:27:04 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "Metalmaiden"
Las Vegas -showgirls and gambling,


You forgot "THE RANCH"   :shock:  :shock:  :shock: not that I would know anythng about this....  :wonder:  :wonder:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: The Metal RN am Oktober 21, 2004, 04:39:05 Nachmittag
Just random free association......Baseball, Basketball, Football (not Futbol),  Men's and Women's NCAA B-Ball tournys, LA, NYC, Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (though they are missing many talents there!), House of Blues, me, Paul Bunyan, Johnny Appleseed, John Henry, Samuel Clemens, WTC, Sears Tower, Brooklyn Bridge, Coney Island, roller coasters, amusment parks, working a gazillion hours and taking no vacations, beautiful coastline and beaches, never ending flat plains, high mountain peaks, raging rivers, great lakes, people's appreciation of their ancestors heritage/nationality, The Bill of Rights, and Amendments to the Constitution.
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: shadowman am Oktober 21, 2004, 05:46:19 Nachmittag
Reading all of this it seems you Americans LOVE Europeans !

If you are female : LUCKY me...  :lol:
And yes : I have the nicest sexy accent... :wink:

This is the way I talk : 'Yes, zere is some eun in ze reum...'

And I do plenty of other irresistable European stuff too...

 :P  :P  :P
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: TexJoachim am Oktober 21, 2004, 05:48:03 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "shadowman"
Reading all of this it seems you Americans LOVE Europeans !

If you are female : LUCKY me...  :lol:
And yes : I have the nicest sexy accent... :wink:


Your wife just called.
You don't mind that I quoted you word for word, do you?
:)

Greetz,

Tex
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: AngelOfMusic am Oktober 21, 2004, 08:51:37 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "The Metal RN"
Zitat von: "AngelOfMusic"

The mention of all that food made me very hungry.  Mmm...Nothing beats a corn dog from the State Fair.  OOH!  Except for fried pickles or oreos from the state fair!  Yum, fattening!


Not to mention Apple pie with a nice big chunk of cheddar cheese!!!!!!! :lol:  or maybe funnel cakes!!!! I really want some dessert now! :P


I love cheese so much!  OOOH!  And you can get fried cheese curds at the IL State Fair, in addition to the other stuff I mentioned.  Mmm...Dangit, I just had lunch and now I'm hungry again!


Shadow, aren't you married?  You naughty, naughty man!  :lol:

But it's true, we love Europeans!  Usually.  I've met a few that are as ignorant as some of my fellow countrymen.  I can't stand ignorance.  I had one girl from Slovenia tell me that the US is a horrible place (to keep it short.)  I pointed out that she's never been here, and that all the people from Europe who have been here that I've talked to loved it.  She just told me I was brainwashed.  ERGH.  Needless to say, I don't discuss my country with her anymore.  /rant

And now I must go work on my Ethics crib sheet,  for if I do not, I will do very badly on the test this coming Tuesday.
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: evilshell am Oktober 21, 2004, 09:00:37 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "shadowman"
Reading all of this it seems you Americans LOVE Europeans !

If you are female : LUCKY me...  :lol:
And yes : I have the nicest sexy accent... :wink:

This is the way I talk : 'Yes, zere is some eun in ze reum...'

And I do plenty of other irresistable European stuff too...

 :P  :P  :P


Heh, well, I will get in line to tell your wife ;)

And there is a reason I married a European man, yanno!
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: Virvatuli am Oktober 21, 2004, 10:05:55 Nachmittag
I really dont understand that accentthing. Atleast most of finnish people sound horrible, like potatos trying to mumble with too many rrr's and k's, while they're desperiately trying to speak something called english. And Russians with nj's... Ynh... Perhaprs its just easier for US people, if they dont understand what their partner is saying?  :lol:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: shadowman am Oktober 21, 2004, 10:34:07 Nachmittag
Euh ... married ... ???
Me ???
Oh yeah, that is right ! Completely forgot ! :wink:

What was I thinking ... ?? Tss Tss.... damn shadowman  !!! :x

Still, how can I help it being that sexy and irresistable and above all : MODEST !!

 :laugh:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: shadowman am Oktober 21, 2004, 10:47:56 Nachmittag
Ok, cut the crap shadowman ! :wink:

Just today I read this in the newspaper under the heading 'through or false' :

"Americans aren't really interested in travelling..."

"True, or the destination should be Disneyworld because 70% of the Americans have been there. Less than 20 % of the US Citizens own a passport. The reason for this lack of interest on travelling :
- 51 % is afraid
- 26 just don't feel like travelling
- 6 % first would like to see America itself
- 7 % doens't like to fligh
The people who do like to travel have Europe as destination number 1 with a preference of Great-Britain followed by France then Germany"

This article was a side note on the coming US elections in one of Belgians leading newspapers, therefor I can assure you, the sources of this enquiry are 100 % reliable...

Any comments by the American bleeding guys ??
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: Metalmaiden am Oktober 22, 2004, 12:29:35 Vormittag
I am suprised that the percent of   "Want to see America first"  is so small!  Because that is most often the excuse I hear from people.

 In general Americans are workaholics.  Many take no vacations at all. They pride themselvess on that fact! So if they do take time off its usually to see family or because it is a  holiday.  
Most Americans only get a week or  maybe two a year of vacation time, not much time for European travel. Unless you are a college student backpacking through Europe one summer
break,  a  trip to Europe is often seen as a once in a life time thing they save up for to do later in life.

As  far as afraid...well American always seem to be afraid. I lived for a time in an a  large city.  My family was afraid to visit, worried they'd get shot or some such thing. Now when
I go back to visit friends are like "oooh, aren't you scared?" of what? "It's  ssooo dangerous"  ??? I guess looking at the evening news it can look  that way and that is probably the same place
 they  get the impression that Europe is sooo dangerous. Watching the news it looks that way. And it is partly due to the fact that  we don't  know geograph!, If something is happening in
 the  Ukraine well that's right next to Belgium isn't it??? :laugh:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: TexJoachim am Oktober 22, 2004, 01:37:18 Vormittag
Zitat von: "Metalmaiden"

 And it is partly due to the fact that  we don't  know geograph!, If something is happening in
 the  Ukraine well that's right next to Belgium isn't it??? :laugh:


Makes me think of this one: http://www.riehle.org/humorous-takes/fun-photos/ch-according-to-cnn.jpg
:(

Greetz,

Tex
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: The Metal RN am Oktober 22, 2004, 04:18:47 Nachmittag
I would have though that the reason more was that they do not have the time. As stated so many people do not take more than 1 weeks vacation at a time. I also agree with the fear of flying and the wanting to see america. We have been fortunate enough to go to europe the past two years and it has by far excedded any of my expectations. They have been two of the best experiences of my life, along with Hawaii :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:   But I think that has a lot to do with my travel companion :D . Anyway, i know that we can not wait to get back over there to see and learn more, that is the most facinating part. It is all real, and that can be fun, exploring and seeing tjings that you had only seen in a book up till that point. I have always wanted to see the pyramids but i think that we might have to wait awhile before heading to that part of the world :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: The Metal RN am Oktober 22, 2004, 04:20:25 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "shadowman"

Just today I read this in the newspaper under the heading 'through or false' :
This article was a side note on the coming US elections in one of Belgians leading newspapers, therefor I can assure you, the sources of this enquiry are 100 % reliable...


Ehhh...newspapers?    what channel is that on :laugh:  :lol2:  :wall:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: shadowman am Oktober 22, 2004, 05:14:30 Nachmittag
@Joachim, the screenshot in the link  seems genuine ! Funny but  sad at the same time...

@the metal RN, wouldn't keep my expectations about the pyramids that high dude.
Egypt has become a rather popular destination for Belgians lately, and I know some people who were there (including my sister) and they are not all that impressed.

Especially the big commerce around the site is a reason never to go again.
The Egyptians around the pyramids are close to agressive if you do not ride a camel, buy a souvenir, have dinner at the premises... etc...
And above all : it is expensive like hell !! :cry:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: TexJoachim am Oktober 22, 2004, 05:30:27 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "shadowman"
@Joachim, the screenshot in the link  seems genuine ! Funny but  sad at the same time...


It is genuine.
:(

Greetz,

Tex
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: This Dying Soul am Oktober 23, 2004, 01:59:53 Nachmittag
First off I wanted to welcome AngelOFMusic to the site and the topic. I dont believe that I have ever had the opportunity to say hello to you before.. from the corn and soy bean fields are ya??? what state is that.. Indiana here.....

its been a rough few days for me.. fighting like cats and dogs with my other half (about to give up and send her home back to Cali) and been working 20 hour days because of the funky weather us Corn and Bean haulers and farmers are afraid of the coming freeze.. and well even though I just haul from the fields to the grain elevators it is scary even fro me being a truck driver... i really like driving local instead of being all over the country and never seeing home... and what is this about cattle prods btw lmao... getten kinky while i was away are we :-P.........

one more thing I wanted to add to this topic.. there is nothing better then waking up first light (this time of the year around 6 a.m but i am up at 4 a.m) and walking out of your front door to look at the fields and being able to inhale the fresh smell of cropped fields ie; corn and soy beans and be able to enjoy each breath with out the smell of cars nasty plants that use chemicals that put poisens into our air, no smog, just fresh crisp clean air.. I wouldnt rade it for nothing in the world.. call me your local red neck and I will tell you that your right.. but i do have alot of compassion for things in this world, not to mention I am a hopeless romantic......

@ Shadowman.... did you fall and bump your head.... sexy voice eh.. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
get over your self "OLD" man  :P
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: AngelOfMusic am Oktober 23, 2004, 07:01:57 Nachmittag
@ Dying Soul:  Hello!  I'm from Illinois, so I guess we're neighbors in the country.  I like Indiana.  You're interstates are in awesome condition.  Unlike OURS.  Stupid politicians, lining their pockets with tax dollars...*grumbles*

ARGH, no more ranting from me!  :P
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: shadowman am Oktober 24, 2004, 01:30:23 Nachmittag
Unless someone has anything to add in here I suggest we might move on to yet anohter country...
Gonna wait for one more day and then we move on...

 8)
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: grym am Oktober 25, 2004, 04:41:34 Vormittag
Yay, reading all those massive rants took me way to long.

I've come to the conclusion that the main thing wrong with America, is it's full of Americans.


Kidding :wink:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: AngelOfMusic am Oktober 25, 2004, 07:06:47 Vormittag
Zitat von: "grym"
Yay, reading all those massive rants took me way to long.

I've come to the conclusion that the main thing wrong with America, is it's full of Americans.


Kidding :wink:



Better than being infested with Funnel Web spiders, mate.  :P


Booyah!  :lol2:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: This Dying Soul am Oktober 25, 2004, 10:53:44 Vormittag
Zitat von: "AngelOfMusic"
@ Dying Soul:  Hello!  I'm from Illinois, so I guess we're neighbors in the country.  I like Indiana.  You're interstates are in awesome condition.  Unlike OURS.  Stupid politicians, lining their pockets with tax dollars...*grumbles*

ARGH, no more ranting from me!  :P


yeah your the closest person too me that visits this site that I have known of yet.. pretty cool I think.. might have to ride out to the corn field between you and I one day and meet.... :banger2:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: grym am Oktober 25, 2004, 08:44:47 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "AngelOfMusic"
Better than being infested with Funnel Web spiders, mate.  :P


Booyah!  :lol2:

Oi! Don't knock 'em, they taste great!  :lol:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: This Dying Soul am November 03, 2004, 01:51:21 Vormittag
well I guess that this topic is a dead issue now so with that I will put up the sign.... :closed:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: Metalmaiden am Dezember 14, 2004, 02:53:11 Nachmittag
Came across this today  ---

"Do we truly believe that ALL red-state residents are ignorant racist fascist knuckle-dragging NASCAR-obsessed cousin-marrying roadkill-eating tobacco-juice-dribbling gun-fondling religious fanatic rednecks; or that ALL blue-state residents are godless unpatriotic pierced-nose Volvo-driving France-loving left-wing communist latte-sucking tofu-chomping holistic-wacko neurotic vegan weenie perverts? Yes. This is called 'diversity,' and it is why we are such a great nation a nation that has given the world both nuclear weapons AND SpongeBob Squarepants." Miami Herald columnist Dave Barry.

 :lol:
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: AngelOfMusic am Dezember 14, 2004, 06:37:41 Nachmittag
I <3 Dave Barry
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: shadowman am Dezember 14, 2004, 11:17:04 Nachmittag
Zitat von: "Metalmaiden"
Came across this today  ---

"Do we truly believe that ALL red-state residents are ignorant racist fascist knuckle-dragging NASCAR-obsessed cousin-marrying roadkill-eating tobacco-juice-dribbling gun-fondling religious fanatic rednecks; or that ALL blue-state residents are godless unpatriotic pierced-nose Volvo-driving France-loving left-wing communist latte-sucking tofu-chomping holistic-wacko neurotic vegan weenie perverts? Yes. This is called 'diversity,' and it is why we are such a great nation a nation that has given the world both nuclear weapons AND SpongeBob Squarepants." Miami Herald columnist Dave Barry.

 :lol:


Hahahahaha ! Had a good laugh with this Metal maiden ! What is your opinion on this quote ?
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: Virvatuli am Dezember 15, 2004, 10:19:11 Vormittag
Me too :) I even read it to my mom, and she laughed her eyes off :)
Titel: Tourism on Bleeding4Metal - Pt.2: USA
Beitrag von: The Metal RN am Dezember 15, 2004, 12:11:34 Nachmittag
I think that pretty much sums it up. There seems to be a need lately (and I do not mean this particular writer, just in general) to make a point of pointing out differences here lately and making sure that you are on "one side or the other", absolutely frustrating.  :x   It is a funny quote/observation though!!!