Mithotyn - Backpatch !

[Widar667]

hey everybody!

 No, I'm not (again) trying to persuade you of reuniting (looks like i have to accept this sad truth.. ) but:

 I would like to create my own Mithotyn-backpatch!   :mrgreen:  :banger2:

I got this idea from a friend who has found a company, who create patches... not exactly cheap, but it'd be worth spending for me... so now I'd like to know:

1. Would there be any copyright problems? (I absolutly don't think so, since a) the band and b) its label don't exist anymore and c) I'm not going to use it comercially!)

2. (this is the reason for my posting:)
 Have you (guys from the bands?) maybe some adequate (big!) model / artwork  / master of the (old) sign of Mithotyn? (I'm talking about that mjollner with runes on a  above..) ....yet, I only found pretty small signs in www .

3. (also i wouldn't dare to hope:)
 Is there any way left to get any Merchandise of Mithotyn? (feel free to PM me, if you know something... )

[Stefan W]

Hi, well if you want to do it just go ahead.

1. No, there would be no problems regarding the copyright.
I think the label registred the name Mithotyn but I think you have to do that every 5 years and I see no reason they would do that if they don´t exist anymore.

2. The only ones you can get a hold of is the www. ones.

3. No, nothing left anywhere that I know of.

[K. Beckman]

I have an old pale "In The Sign..." t-shirt in my wardrobe. It have some holes and glue on it but it looks nice.

About the logo. The original of the early hammer logo was made on a small piece of paper, so I doubt that you'll ever find a large one in good quality. :(

Did you know that the first logo was banned by the label? It was because of the "o" rune. That symbol is totally banned in Germany, and there is a obvious reason to that.

[jakob_hasse]

Did you know that the first logo was banned by the label? It was because of the "o" rune. That symbol is totally banned in Germany, and there is a obvious reason to that.

hm... that one with the squared 'o' that has 'legs' on it?



jakob

[Prab]

Hm? What about the O rune?   :?:

I mean I've heard some right wing extremist groups have used symbols of norse mythology for their purposes, but I'm not totally familiar with this topic.

[Widar667]

Allright, thx a lot so far...!


 - I too own one of that "In The Sign Of The Ravens"-T-Shirts! :D .......have there actually ever been any more merchandise products apart from these? (--> can i hope to find some more on ebay? )

- what "O"-rune are you talking about? .....i was just thinking of that sign/logo which is my avatar now!
 ....or is it the "o" within the word "Mythotyn" inside the logo?

[Stefan W]

The logo in your avatar contains the "fake" "O" rune since our label didn´t dare to use the real rune called "The Odal rune" because it was very used by the extreme rightwing.
If you have any of the demos you'll see the original rune or just look it up in a rune book or something.

The original logo we did was a mix between a scetch and a small clip from a book, so the piece was the same size as a cassette tape.

[jakob_hasse]

this one?


OK, i removed it... I found the picture via google and I didnt realise it came from a italian national socialist website...  


Keep on trucking!

[K. Beckman]

Almoast, but without the upgoing lines at the bottom.
Btw: Don't be surprised if your picture is taken away from here. You should remove it your self. That symbol is illegal in both Germany and Sweden.

[AngelOfMusic]

That's too bad that extremist parties have to ruin a rather non-offensive symbol by turning it into a symbol that represents highly negative mindsets/events. :(

(I had to look up just why this rune was so offensive.  I had an idea, but I wasn't sure.)

[TexJoachim]

Btw: Don't be surprised if your picture is taken away from here. You should remove it your self. That symbol is illegal in both Germany and Sweden.

Not quite right.
Not all runes are illegal in Germany. And to make it worse, the context has to be considered, too.

Now, the Odal rune was illegal in Germany because it was used by two forbidden right-winged groups. When this happens all symbols used by such groups become illegal.
Now the Odal rune is only illegal when it it used to refer to these forbidden groups, not when used as a reference in Paganism or art.
The details can be found here: http://www.polizei.niedersachsen.de/dst/lka/staatsschutz/rechts/informationsblatt/start.html

Because the rune is depicted as a rune and not as a symbol for a right-winged group, it is not illegal.
(And I therefore doi not intend to delete it, as long as it stays that way.)

Greetz,

Tex

[Widar667]

Btw: Don't be surprised if your picture is taken away from here. You should remove it your self. That symbol is illegal in both Germany and Sweden.

Not quite right.
Not all runes are illegal in Germany. And to make it worse, the context has to be considered, too.

Now, the Odal rune was illegal in Germany because it was used by two forbidden right-winged groups. When this happens all symbols used by such groups become illegal.
Now the Odal rune is only illegal when it it used to refer to these forbidden groups, not when used as a reference in Paganism or art.
The details can be found here: http://www.polizei.niedersachsen.de/dst/lka/staatsschutz/rechts/informationsblatt/start.html

Because the rune is depicted as a rune and not as a symbol for a right-winged group, it is not illegal.
(And I therefore doi not intend to delete it, as long as it stays that way.)

Greetz,

Tex

 yepp, this is what i was just about to post as well....! - but thank you for that link, it's pretty interesting!

 btw:
 when/if I'll order such a Mithotyn-backpatch, i will use the Ordal Rune! 8)

[K. Beckman]

btw:
 when/if I'll order such a Mithotyn-backpatch, i will use the Ordal Rune! 8)

That's the one we wanted to use, so that's a good choise.  

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