I must say that the last show I went to, The Hardcore/Metal festival in Massachusettes, I was really impressed with the younger kids at the show, and they have some really intense pits at hardcore shows. They have a lot of kids wildly swinging arms in the pits and the people around the fringe put their fists out at arms length and let the individuals know where the limits are. Rarely someone went past the line but there was no real intent, just a mistake.People all stopped whenever someone went down. The vocalist would often help point out people that needed a hand. The event staff were also great in letting the kids do their thing, helping crowd surfers down easy at the front and sending them back around to the pit area.